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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back for another round of Truth

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Seekers we are back on track and ready

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to attack once again covering some of

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the strangest and most mysterious

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stories out there on the interwebs

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so uh yeah I've been away for a few days

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uh and thanks to those who've noticed

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um yeah what can I say my children had

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off actually on Monday and Friday and

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then one got ill so with new

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restrictions your child could sneeze or

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cough or uh have a sniffle in school and

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be home for five days or whatever to

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positive no covet

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two negative coven tests several days uh

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it's a bit unclear uh but I believe that

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that situation is resolving and I'll be

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able to return to work once again

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here

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so tonight we're going to be talking

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about one of my favorite UFO huckster

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UFO hucksters and that is Bob Lazar who

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for 30 years have been swearing that he

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he's a scientist and worked on top

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secret government projects

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on a subset of Area 51 called S4

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problem is there's nothing there

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the other problem is his education is

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completely and totally fake that has

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been covered many many times here as

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well as many other places even the

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originator of the story uh George Knapp

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agrees that he can't verify his

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educational claims there's no master's

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degree in either physics or electronics

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at either prestigious University he

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claims that he attended interesting to

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note that

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as well as Michael fradt and others have

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verified that while he was claiming that

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he was going to MIT he was actually

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attending Pierce Junior College quite

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the commute

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now we have covered various uh reasons

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why Bob Lazar is a fraud and uh a liar

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and never actually worked at Area 51

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including a story that we had the uh

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near exclusive on brought To Us by our

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friend Victor

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Victor interviewed a real life

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verifiable Area 51 security guard who

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worked there

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during Bob's apparent uh Flying Saucer

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work days uh and verified that first of

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all there's nothing at all

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where balazar claimed the S4 sub base on

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Area 51 is there's no Hangar bay doors

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there's no guard shack there's no Road

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even where he said it was

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and more

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previously some time ago

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I reported that I had a source that

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worked at Los Alamos National Labs for

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decades including during the time that

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Bob Lazar claimed to be a physicist

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now that source told me that Bob Lazar

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was never a scientist at Los Alamos he

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was never a physicist let alone a senior

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staff level physicist as he once claimed

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there are other indicators that Bob

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Lazar was lying when he said that he was

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a scientist at Los Alamos National Labs

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one of the most telling I believe is

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that during a talk with Jeremy Corbell

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a photo of a satellite dish

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outside of Los Alamos was shown and

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babazar said oh yeah I remember

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installing that

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friends uh I I'm no expert but I've been

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National Labs especially senior staff

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level physicists do not install

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satellite dishes they have far more

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important things to do

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now there have been other indicators

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over the years that Bob Lazar is full of

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spacecraft he worked on were 52 feet in

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we pulled out some of Bob lazar's

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original drawings of this mythical

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Flying Saucer research facility he

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it doesn't take a senior staff level

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physicist friends to realize that you

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cannot get a 52 foot diameter spacecraft

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in and out of a 40-foot Hangar bay door

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so he lied about his education he also

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he just doesn't mention that neither

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does anybody promoting his story mention

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that Bob Lazar is a convicted pimp

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that's right he ran a whorehouse because

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Los Alamos National Labs who is at the

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top of their game it should be explained

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if you're a staff level physicist

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at Los Alamos National Labs that is the

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coolest job you'll ever get that's where

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all physicists want to work at a place

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doing super Advanced theoretical physics

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and science at a place like that

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it makes no sense

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that he would simply quit his job as a

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physicist to go start a whorehouse

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that's not the way scientists think or

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work at least not a reputable scientist

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after all what scientists doing any

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level of research just one day says you

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know what

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I'm tired of all this sciency stuff and

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all this advanced math and physics I'm

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I'm just gonna go run a whorehouse right

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and there have been various stories

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about the whorehouse if you listen to

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one uh talk George Knapp gave well he

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didn't run the whorehouse he just

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installed some computers and helped the

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[\h__\h] out and another

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uh talked to George Knapp gave George

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Knapp says that Bob Lazar became a full

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partner with the Madam of that

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whorehouse

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if you read the court documents from the

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criminal case it's very clear that Bob

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Lazar had a lot more involvement than

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just installing computer systems and

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helping those [\h__\h] out

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maybe he's just a nice scientist that

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likes to help [\h__\h] out in his spare

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time but I don't think that this story

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helps his credibility one bit and there

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have been people like

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Jeremy Corbell who have profited

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tremendously from this story and we have

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previously reported that myself Jeremy

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rise alien scientist

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solar Marshal and many other researchers

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gave Jeremy Corbell all kinds of

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information

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before he made his documentary that is

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proof positive that Bob Lazar is not who

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he claims to be that he lies a lot

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none of that made it into the film

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because you see there's no profit from a

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documentary if you just say here's all

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the reasons that this guy's a liar

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and you know one of the things that's a

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pet peeve of mine and I've mentioned

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this many many times is that there are

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numerous articles all over print media

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and other places where they say former

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government scientist whistleblower first

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of all there's no proof that he was ever

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a scientist none zero you will not find

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a single paper written by this so-called

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scientist in any

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publication not one in fact remember he

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said he had two master's degrees you

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won't find his master's thesis anywhere

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in those colleges because they don't

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exist now people have made excuses for

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why his education was fake right oh no

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the Men in Black yeah they try to erase

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they try to erase his uh educational

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credentials later Bob Lazar even told

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Joe Rogan a huge lie he said that he was

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working on special secret projects at

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MIT and that's why they hit his records

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that's a new part of the story but

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remember supporters of Bob Lazar always

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say the story never changes no the story

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changes a lot if you pay attention most

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people whoever simply don't pay

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attention to what Bob Lazar calls the

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minutiae but the minutia matters

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babazar also told Linda Moulton Howe

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that he never went to MIT he just hung

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out there like he would sneak into

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lectures and I gotta say I can't blame

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him for that because

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in my own case about the time that all

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my friends were going to college I had

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no road to college no way to do it and I

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was very interested in things like

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philosophy and Science and a bunch of my

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friends went to Temple University so I'd

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go there and hang out with my friends

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then I suddenly realized that I could

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get an ID

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wait a minute is this long enough ago

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yeah it's plenty long enough because

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that's I I can't get any trouble now I

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don't think so I actually got a Temple

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uh just went down to the student center

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and played Dumb and and some girl gave

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me one took my picture and everything

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and uh that enabled me to walk all over

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the campus I started going to philosophy

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lectures by professors I thought were

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interesting I spent every day there for

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job job so I can't blame Bob Lazar if he

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was interested in science for sneaking

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into some lectures about science at MIT

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I did the same kind of thing

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but to

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lie to the world and claim that you're a

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physicist when you're not oh one of my

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other favorite lies of his is that he

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once claimed that he had a particle

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accelerator in his bedroom go ask any

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physicist how big a particle accelerator

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is you're not fitting one in the bedroom

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that does that's not how this works

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that's not how any of this works but see

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this is the problem with Bob Lazar is

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that it's the little details that reveal

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to us that he's not a scientist like the

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fact that he ran a whorehouse

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but let's get back to Los Alamos which

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is the purpose for our broadcast tonight

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because I had a source in fact I had two

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sources that worked at Los Alamos one

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was a newer employee who just told me

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she asked around and there were people

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that worked there that remember Bob

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Lazar and they all said they couldn't

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believe when they saw this newspaper

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article of him with the jet car claiming

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he was a physicist because they all knew

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that he was an Electronics Tech

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he did things like run wires and install

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satellite dishes and he worked on the

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radiation Health monitoring equipment

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and now it appears that so did his

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one-time wife as a contractor a low

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level Electronics technician is what Bob

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now the other source I had had worked at

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Los Alamos for decades however the

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problem with both of my sources is that

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they would not allow me to use their

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names

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and uh they would not give me and on the

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the record interview they wouldn't come

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on camera or even audio and allow me to

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record their stories

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but I knew that they were both credible

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I verified their employment I knew

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exactly where they worked and how long

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they worked in the case of the employee

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that worked there for decades he was a

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real scientist he told me a lot of

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things about Bob Lazar

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but things that I a lot of which I

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couldn't repeat because I you know I

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don't like just saying trust me dude

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because that's how half of this ufology

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thing works sources just trust me

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now

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I realize however though that Anonymous

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sources can sometimes be valuable

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because these people point at me in the

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right direction and they gave me

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information that corroborated other

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information that is out there let's not

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forget that John Lear himself said that

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Bob worked on radiation Health monitors

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Alpha monitors and he used to go with

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them and and help them do those things

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so the sources that I have corroborated

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things that John Lear and others have

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said

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later despite what you may think of him

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Dr Eric Davis also chimed in and said

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that Bob Lazar worked on radiation

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Health monitors that's three sources now

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I have

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four if you count by two that don't want

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to be named that work at Los Alamos and

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still do by the way

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that means we have four sources that say

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he was a low-level technician

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not a scientist that worked at while he

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worked at Los Alamos he was an

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Electronics technician not a scientist

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he was never a scientist friends at Los

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Alamos or anywhere else

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but recently

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I was so happy because our friend here

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Jack Frost you may remember him as

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Victor

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previous guest owner show when we did

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another

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uh story covering Bob Lazar his

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interview with the area 51 security

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guard put me in touch with another

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researcher who has been doing deep Dives

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and really trying to get to the truth

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about Bob Lazar

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interestingly that researcher found

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information which corroborated my

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original two sources that wouldn't go on

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the record but I'm pleased to say that

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in that researcher's case he got their

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names their titles and the ability to

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name them

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so now we've got more sources that say

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bubbles are lied he was never a

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physicist at Los Alamos

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never it was exactly what my sources

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said he was a low-level Electronics

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technician not a scientist

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so we're going to get into that and I

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apologize uh

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I have not put this um

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I have not put this article from medium

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which this researcher published just

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earlier today

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um it has been

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published today February 22nd and we are

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the first show that I am aware of that

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will be bringing this information to the

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public

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another exclusive story

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and by the way I spoke with this

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I have his full permission to share his

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article and talk about it tonight and

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we're also arranging an interview

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because this my friends I'm happy to say

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this this is the first in a series of

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articles that I believe will completely

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and totally destroy this house of cards

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of Bob lazar's fake Flying Saucer

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stories

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this researcher has done incredible work

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and should be commended for that because

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they succeeded in many places where I

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failed including getting on the record

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sources at Los Alamos which is very very

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important right

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so

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things that

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this researcher signals Intelligence on

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medium.com has uncovered

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and uh this is just more confirmation

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that the people that are profiting from

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this story and selling this story

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are lying to you I've been saying that

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for years people like Jeremy rise alien

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scientists have been saying that for

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years there's Bob Lazar debunked.com you

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can go to and see the full breakdown of

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all of Bob lazar's uh half-truths and

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lies over the years that he's been

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caught in and tonight I'm going to ask a

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very simple question now we've got

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complete and total confirmation of three

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things number one Bob Lazar lied about

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his education

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prove me wrong you can't

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there are multiple multiple researchers

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that have confirmed both with MIT and

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Caltech Bob lazar's claimed educational

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credentials are completely and totally

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fake and made up number two

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we have on the record Source a verified

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Area 51 security guard we reported that

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here thanks to our friend Victor

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um

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and that area 51 security guard said two

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things first of all there is no S4 where

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Bob claimed it to be there is no Flying

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Saucer research facility there's no

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Hangar bay doors nothing there's nothing

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there and he was there in 1988-89 when

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Bob Lazar claimed to be working on those

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flying saucers

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and anybody can verify that man's

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identity in fact his identity is

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revealed in court papers because he's

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one of the people that sued Area 51 in

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the government

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uh for

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health problems he suffered as a result

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of the burned piss that they created

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Aria 51 where they were burning toxic

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materials that's a great source you can

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verify that man worked where he said he

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worked unlike Bob Lazar so there's two

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we have his education can be completely

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and totally ripped apart to be

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completely and totally fake number two

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we have an on the record Area 51

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security guard that anybody can verify

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that man's credentials who said two

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things there's no S4 there

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and Bob Lazar never stepped foot on Area

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51 because he would had to have been in

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the logs he checked the logs as soon as

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the story broke and he and his friends

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had a big laugh they even called George

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Knapp

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that area 51 security guard called

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George Knapp and said you might want to

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retract your story or not run with this

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story because this guy's full of [\h__\h] he

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never stepped foot in Area 51 now I get

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it everybody comes attacking me well he

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didn't say it worked at S4 uh no but he

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did say that he flew in to Area 51 on

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the Janet Airlines and then he was

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transported

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on a bus to the subset of the base so he

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still would have had to be in the logs

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for having come anybody that comes on to

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Area 51 base for whatever reason is

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logged by their legal name coming in the

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base and leaving the base every single

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person that comes in or out of Area 51

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is locked this security guard checked he

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was curious seeing these news reports

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Bob Lazar is not in any of the logs and

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no chance for the Men in Black to erase

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Bob Lazar from existence there

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that's two two major major talking

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points that Jeremy Corbell use that Bob

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Lazar used that George Knapp used all of

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which fall apart under scrutiny and we

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have on the record sourcing and that can

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prove that those two things are

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completely and totally a lie now what is

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this third talking point that they all

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use well Bob Lazar was a scientist at uh

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Los Alamos National Labs so he must be a

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real scientist

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the only proof that that happened was a

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newspaper article

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the only proof that people have that

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they can point to that babazar was a

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physicist at Los Alamos is a newspaper

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article written about a jet car that he

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built or was building

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by the way there's some dispute about

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whether he actually built that or not

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see Jeremy rice work on that Bob Lazar

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grew up next to a guy that built jet

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engines and strapped them on all kinds

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of stuff or had some association with

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him

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anyway

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back to Los Alamos so there was a

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newspaper article written about him and

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in the newspaper article

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Bob Lazar claimed he was a physicist

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now Jeremy Corbell later claimed that he

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talked to the guy who wrote that article

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and he checked right

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and

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he vetted

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that claim no he didn't no he didn't he

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never vetted that claim the person that

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wrote that article never vetted that

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claim that means Jeremy Corbell lied

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through his teeth to all of us

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babazar was never a physicist

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not at Los Alamos National Lab

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not anywhere but especially not at Los

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Alamos National Lab and we have all the

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receipts and the proof and the on the

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record sourcing to prove it now thanks

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to uh the the research of this Signal's

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intelligence who will be working with to

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bring you more of the Bob Lazar story

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so

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that means we've got three

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major lies

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with on the record sourcing that proved

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that these three major talking points

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that all these bubbles are profiteers

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use to try to claim the story still may

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be true are lies

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three major lies that on the record good

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research and sourced good source

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material good Witnesses impeccable

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Witnesses

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all refute these three

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talking points that they all use to try

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to continue to profit from this story

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and I don't know about you but I think

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all three of these guys Bob Lazar Jeremy

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Corbell and George Knapp have all made

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enough money pushing this horse [\h__\h]

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right George Knapp famously said he

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knows where that element 115 is buried

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and someday he's going to dig it up

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[\h__\h] [\h__\h] George Knapp dig it up

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show it to us if he really knows where

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absolute 100 proof of alien visitations

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to Earth is buried do you think that he

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would just sit on it for 30 years not

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dig it up not bring that proof forward

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no it's not in George Knapp's best

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interest to actually provide any

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evidence it's better to just let people

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wonder let people believe just it may be

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true so what if he lied about his

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education so what if he lied about

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actually being a scientist and he was

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just some self-taught nerd and by the

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way there's nothing wrong with that I'm

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a self-taught nerd right

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but I'm not running around telling

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people I worked in Area 51 on flying

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saucers

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that means as of tonight there are three

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huge lies that Jeremy Corbell Bob Lazar

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and George Knapp have been pushing at

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the UFO Community for years now and it's

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about time that they answer for these

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lies maybe they should give all the

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money back that they made

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unless they can provide proof of Bob

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lazar's claims

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it was never a scientist he ran a

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whorehouse okay scientists by and large

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maybe somebody will prove me wrong and

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00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:21,179
find me a scientist that runs a

560
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:23,279
whorehouse but I I've never heard of a

561
00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:25,440
scientist that also that quit his job to

562
00:30:29,090 --> 00:30:26,940
go run a whorehouse

563
00:30:32,330 --> 00:30:29,100
oh and speaking of quitting a job

564
00:30:34,130 --> 00:30:32,340
tonight we're going to find out

565
00:30:35,810 --> 00:30:34,140
maybe a little bit more about what

566
00:30:38,029 --> 00:30:35,820
happened there at Los Alamos National

567
00:30:40,430 --> 00:30:38,039
Labs because like I mentioned anybody

568
00:30:42,830 --> 00:30:40,440
getting a job there isn't quitting their

569
00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:42,840
job that's a dream job for a science

570
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,820
nerd or a physicist

571
00:30:49,070 --> 00:30:46,320
but

572
00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:49,080
things didn't end well apparently

573
00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:52,260
during Bob lazar's temporary employment

574
00:30:56,210 --> 00:30:55,380
at Los Alamos National Labs and more on

575
00:30:57,950 --> 00:30:56,220
that

576
00:31:00,649 --> 00:30:57,960
we can bring you

577
00:31:03,529 --> 00:31:00,659
so let's get into this article I have

578
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:03,539
not yet done it sorry uh we are uh

579
00:31:09,889 --> 00:31:06,960
rushing to go to broadcast tonight I I

580
00:31:12,649 --> 00:31:09,899
will link the article and it will be in

581
00:31:16,430 --> 00:31:12,659
the about section of our video here so

582
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:16,440
that you can uh follow along but I am

583
00:31:22,669 --> 00:31:20,159
going to do this I am going to uh put

584
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:22,679
this in the live chat right now please

585
00:31:26,570 --> 00:31:24,960
bear with me one moment friends while we

586
00:31:28,850 --> 00:31:26,580
do that

587
00:31:31,789 --> 00:31:28,860
and again this is signals Intelligence

588
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:31,799
on medium.com

589
00:31:38,210 --> 00:31:35,760
I'm just going to put link to article

590
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:38,220
so all the uh proof we're talking about

591
00:31:43,549 --> 00:31:42,240
is in this article and you can freely

592
00:31:46,130 --> 00:31:43,559
follow along

593
00:31:48,350 --> 00:31:46,140
me I love good research and good

594
00:31:51,409 --> 00:31:48,360
materials to share with my friends and

595
00:31:53,450 --> 00:31:51,419
I'm glad thank you to our new friends

596
00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:53,460
signals intelligence and also thanks to

597
00:31:58,490 --> 00:31:56,640
Victor for kind of uh connecting us I

598
00:32:01,970 --> 00:31:58,500
heard about him doing this for quite

599
00:32:04,009 --> 00:32:01,980
some time but we never spoke and just as

600
00:32:06,350 --> 00:32:04,019
luck would have it I talked to him today

601
00:32:09,409 --> 00:32:06,360
and he said I'm publishing this today

602
00:32:11,389 --> 00:32:09,419
and I said can I share this can we talk

603
00:32:13,730 --> 00:32:11,399
about it he said sure and we're

604
00:32:16,190 --> 00:32:13,740
arranging an interview because he's got

605
00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:16,200
so much more than this friends there's

606
00:32:20,330 --> 00:32:17,940
so much more than this coming

607
00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:20,340
and I for one am excited about this

608
00:32:26,450 --> 00:32:23,519
because you know it it's it's a not it's

609
00:32:28,909 --> 00:32:26,460
a thankless job to try to uh smack

610
00:32:31,310 --> 00:32:28,919
people out of their UFO delusions and

611
00:32:33,649 --> 00:32:31,320
listen I get it I love this story

612
00:32:36,529 --> 00:32:33,659
growing up if I could pick one story

613
00:32:38,750 --> 00:32:36,539
from the whole land of UFO mythology to

614
00:32:41,870 --> 00:32:38,760
be true it would probably be the Bob

615
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:44,149
I even bought the model growing up and

616
00:32:48,830 --> 00:32:47,279
the VHS tape so I think Bob Lazar owes

617
00:32:51,889 --> 00:32:48,840
me 50 bucks

618
00:32:54,409 --> 00:32:51,899
uh because I bought those because I was

619
00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:54,419
a kid and naive and stupid and I

620
00:32:58,370 --> 00:32:56,580
believed him years later I would find

621
00:32:59,870 --> 00:32:58,380
out that he lied so many times there's

622
00:33:03,649 --> 00:32:59,880
no way I should have given him a dollar

623
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:03,659
let alone a bunch of dollars but

624
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:06,000
this is where I find myself years later

625
00:33:12,049 --> 00:33:09,120
still following the story and uh

626
00:33:14,269 --> 00:33:12,059
enjoying hearing new information so here

627
00:33:16,190 --> 00:33:14,279
we go to the article signals

628
00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:16,200
intelligence bubbles are there's more to

629
00:33:20,570 --> 00:33:18,840
the story and remember uh he does say

630
00:33:23,090 --> 00:33:20,580
that here this is the first in a series

631
00:33:26,269 --> 00:33:23,100
of Articles resulting of over 50

632
00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:26,279
interviews conduct it with people who

633
00:33:31,370 --> 00:33:29,039
either know or knew bubbles are

634
00:33:33,889 --> 00:33:31,380
have had a role in his story or claims

635
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:33,899
or would have had knowledge relevant to

636
00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:36,720
Bob's story or claims if they are true

637
00:33:41,330 --> 00:33:38,760
all the interviews in this article are

638
00:33:43,490 --> 00:33:41,340
transcribed from recorded audio they

639
00:33:45,769 --> 00:33:43,500
have been edited for readability and

640
00:33:48,830 --> 00:33:45,779
they were conversational in nature the

641
00:33:51,470 --> 00:33:48,840
answers are verbatim so we begin with

642
00:33:54,110 --> 00:33:51,480
Bob lazar's work at Los Alamos National

643
00:33:56,450 --> 00:33:54,120
Laboratory Bob islone claimed that he

644
00:33:58,909 --> 00:33:56,460
was hired as a physicist at Los Alamos

645
00:34:01,310 --> 00:33:58,919
in May of 1982.

646
00:34:03,409 --> 00:34:01,320
and this is from one of his appearances

647
00:34:05,870 --> 00:34:03,419
they asked him

648
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:05,880
he says I worked at Los Alamos National

649
00:34:11,629 --> 00:34:09,119
Lab Knapp says as a physicist Lazar says

650
00:34:15,470 --> 00:34:11,639
yes as a physicist and there's a link to

651
00:34:17,869 --> 00:34:15,480
the actual interview there

652
00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:17,879
signals goes on to say as evidence from

653
00:34:21,230 --> 00:34:19,740
his employment as a physicist Bob Lazar

654
00:34:23,329 --> 00:34:21,240
George Knapp and the others who have

655
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:23,339
credited his story have pointed to a Los

656
00:34:27,710 --> 00:34:25,919
Alamos monitor article published on June

657
00:34:29,629 --> 00:34:27,720
30th this is the article we mentioned

658
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:29,639
previously where they talked about his

659
00:34:33,470 --> 00:34:31,679
rocket car the author of the article

660
00:34:35,629 --> 00:34:33,480
Terry England wrote The Following to

661
00:34:38,089 --> 00:34:35,639
Lazar a physicist at the Los Alamos

662
00:34:40,129 --> 00:34:38,099
Mason physics facility the important

663
00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:40,139
thing is the jet engine it's something

664
00:34:44,089 --> 00:34:42,240
he's been working on for years whether

665
00:34:46,129 --> 00:34:44,099
or not England made any efforts to

666
00:34:48,290 --> 00:34:46,139
verify that luzar was in fact a

667
00:34:49,550 --> 00:34:48,300
physicist at Los Alamos has been debated

668
00:34:52,909 --> 00:34:49,560
ever since

669
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:52,919
in July 2020 Jordan Joe Rod Rogan's

670
00:34:57,230 --> 00:34:54,720
podcast with Jeremy Corbell and George

671
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:57,240
Knapp Corbell said he had spoken with

672
00:35:02,450 --> 00:34:59,040
Terry England and asked him the question

673
00:35:04,730 --> 00:35:02,460
directly this is from uh

674
00:35:06,050 --> 00:35:04,740
Joe Rogan's podcast Corbell says I

675
00:35:08,210 --> 00:35:06,060
finally got an interview with the guy

676
00:35:10,670 --> 00:35:08,220
that wrote the article two weeks ago so

677
00:35:12,290 --> 00:35:10,680
the guy Terry English right finally

678
00:35:14,750 --> 00:35:12,300
after all this time he called me back

679
00:35:16,910 --> 00:35:14,760
three years late you know

680
00:35:19,130 --> 00:35:16,920
put him in the movie and I said look

681
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:19,140
here's the point you said Bob Lazar was

682
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:22,079
a physicist at Los Alamos so how did you

683
00:35:25,370 --> 00:35:24,240
base that on you're writing a paper and

684
00:35:28,010 --> 00:35:25,380
he goes yeah

685
00:35:31,490 --> 00:35:28,020
and it got picked up by the AP News

686
00:35:33,710 --> 00:35:31,500
Corbell then says that this Terry

687
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:33,720
English said this quote if I had

688
00:35:37,010 --> 00:35:35,520
misrepresented that he was a physicist

689
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:37,020
at Los Alamos I would have been

690
00:35:42,050 --> 00:35:39,119
blackballed by everybody at Los Alamos

691
00:35:44,329 --> 00:35:42,060
they take that very seriously he was a

692
00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:44,339
physicist I reported it AP News picked

693
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:46,380
it up they repeated it not a word from

694
00:35:50,270 --> 00:35:48,480
anybody saying he wasn't a physicist at

695
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:50,280
low Los Alamos so that's from The Joe

696
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:53,040
Rogan Experience number 1510.

697
00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:54,320
so

698
00:35:59,150 --> 00:35:57,000
signals the writer of this article

699
00:36:01,069 --> 00:35:59,160
writes I spoke with Terry England in

700
00:36:02,690 --> 00:36:01,079
August of 2021 to confirm the account

701
00:36:03,890 --> 00:36:02,700
that Jeremy Corbell gave of their

702
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:03,900
conversation

703
00:36:08,810 --> 00:36:06,000
England did not recall making the

704
00:36:11,150 --> 00:36:08,820
statements attributed to him by corbel

705
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:11,160
author did you ever follow up to

706
00:36:14,990 --> 00:36:12,960
actually verify his claim that he was a

707
00:36:17,390 --> 00:36:15,000
physicist or did you just take that at

708
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:17,400
face value Terry England the author of

709
00:36:21,290 --> 00:36:19,200
the original article said I kind of took

710
00:36:22,910 --> 00:36:21,300
it at face value I talked to a lot of

711
00:36:24,530 --> 00:36:22,920
guys up there at Los Alamos who were

712
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:24,540
nuclear physicists and I pretty much

713
00:36:29,150 --> 00:36:27,359
accepted what they said author did you

714
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:29,160
speak to some people and ask if he was a

715
00:36:33,890 --> 00:36:32,160
physicist England no maybe I should have

716
00:36:34,670 --> 00:36:33,900
but I had no reason to doubt him at the

717
00:36:36,770 --> 00:36:34,680
time

718
00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:36,780
author and Jeremy corbell's recent

719
00:36:41,569 --> 00:36:39,839
documentary he said he talked to you and

720
00:36:43,849 --> 00:36:41,579
you told him that you had confirmed he

721
00:36:46,730 --> 00:36:43,859
was a physicist England I don't remember

722
00:36:48,290 --> 00:36:46,740
saying that it's possible but I don't

723
00:36:50,750 --> 00:36:48,300
remember saying that because I don't

724
00:36:52,490 --> 00:36:50,760
remember doing it author he said that

725
00:36:54,170 --> 00:36:52,500
you told him if you hadn't looked into

726
00:36:55,310 --> 00:36:54,180
it you would have been blackballed in

727
00:36:58,609 --> 00:36:55,320
the community

728
00:37:03,170 --> 00:36:58,619
England he said I said that author yeah

729
00:37:05,270 --> 00:37:03,180
England I don't think so so here we have

730
00:37:07,250 --> 00:37:05,280
proof positive that Jeremy corbell's

731
00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:07,260
just making [\h__\h] up putting words in

732
00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:09,240
people's mouth that they never said or

733
00:37:13,130 --> 00:37:10,680
don't recall say

734
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:13,140
this isn't the first time that Jeremy

735
00:37:17,690 --> 00:37:14,880
Corbell has been caught putting words in

736
00:37:19,970 --> 00:37:17,700
people's mouth that's my opinion based

737
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:19,980
on my observation of Mr Corbell

738
00:37:24,650 --> 00:37:22,560
and I'm entitled to it

739
00:37:26,930 --> 00:37:24,660
okay the article goes on to state in

740
00:37:28,910 --> 00:37:26,940
addition to England's recollection that

741
00:37:31,250 --> 00:37:28,920
he did not try to verify balboazar's

742
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:31,260
role at Los Alamos Lazar himself gave an

743
00:37:35,450 --> 00:37:32,880
interview on the radio show the Billy

744
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:35,460
Goodman happening on December 20th 1989

745
00:37:39,950 --> 00:37:37,440
where he gives more detail about the

746
00:37:41,930 --> 00:37:39,960
timeline and nature of his role at Los

747
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:41,940
Alamos

748
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:44,400
this is Bob Lazar speaking in an old

749
00:37:49,849 --> 00:37:46,800
interview says I have two Master degrees

750
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:49,859
one's in physics one's in electronics

751
00:37:56,510 --> 00:37:54,320
I wrote my thesis on mhd which is magnet

752
00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:56,520
magnetohedro Dynamics I worked at Los

753
00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:58,800
Alamos for a few years as a technician

754
00:38:03,710 --> 00:38:01,200
and then as a physicist in the polarized

755
00:38:06,349 --> 00:38:03,720
proton section dealing with the

756
00:38:08,810 --> 00:38:06,359
accelerator there

757
00:38:10,430 --> 00:38:08,820
so the article goes on to state in this

758
00:38:12,589 --> 00:38:10,440
interview a month after nap's first

759
00:38:14,270 --> 00:38:12,599
report identifying him Bob claims that

760
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:14,280
he was hired as a technician and then

761
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:16,320
remained in the role for a few years

762
00:38:21,770 --> 00:38:19,680
before becoming a physicist however Bob

763
00:38:23,450 --> 00:38:21,780
confirms in the Los Alamos monitor

764
00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:23,460
article that he had just moved to Los

765
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:26,460
Alamos the month before separately Los

766
00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:28,560
Alamos has verified that he began work

767
00:38:37,310 --> 00:38:35,630
if he had only begun to work at the lab

768
00:38:38,930 --> 00:38:37,320
with little more than a month before his

769
00:38:40,970 --> 00:38:38,940
interview with Terry England for the

770
00:38:43,250 --> 00:38:40,980
monitor article and was a technician at

771
00:38:45,050 --> 00:38:43,260
the lab for a few years he could not

772
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:45,060
have been a physicist at the time the

773
00:38:49,490 --> 00:38:47,760
Los Alamos article was published so

774
00:38:51,710 --> 00:38:49,500
here's the thing about a lie you know

775
00:38:53,810 --> 00:38:51,720
Bob Lazar thinks that you know things

776
00:38:55,910 --> 00:38:53,820
just disappeared and the things that he

777
00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:55,920
said in 1989 aren't still relevant but

778
00:39:01,069 --> 00:38:58,320
some people like this researcher dug up

779
00:39:03,290 --> 00:39:01,079
what he said so Bob says yeah I worked

780
00:39:04,730 --> 00:39:03,300
as I worked as a technician for a few

781
00:39:07,490 --> 00:39:04,740
years and then they hired me as a

782
00:39:10,010 --> 00:39:07,500
physicist uh that never happened because

783
00:39:11,930 --> 00:39:10,020
a month after he was hired he was

784
00:39:15,170 --> 00:39:11,940
speaking to this reporter about his jet

785
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:15,180
car claiming to be a physicist so either

786
00:39:18,650 --> 00:39:16,800
he lied to the person writing the

787
00:39:21,170 --> 00:39:18,660
newspaper article or he lied to the

788
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:21,180
interviewer on that show

789
00:39:26,690 --> 00:39:24,000
or it's all a lie

790
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:26,700
your choice

791
00:39:31,849 --> 00:39:29,040
okay next

792
00:39:34,370 --> 00:39:31,859
uh the article goes on to State I am not

793
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:34,380
aware of any lab employees who have made

794
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:36,000
public statements regarding Bob's work

795
00:39:39,470 --> 00:39:37,920
at Los Alamos George Knapp has claimed

796
00:39:41,450 --> 00:39:39,480
that he has spoken with former employees

797
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:41,460
who work with Bob and verified he was a

798
00:39:46,010 --> 00:39:43,440
physicist yeah and I would call on

799
00:39:48,589 --> 00:39:46,020
George Knapp give us their names you

800
00:39:50,690 --> 00:39:48,599
said that you spoke with people at Los

801
00:39:53,930 --> 00:39:50,700
Alamos that verified he was a physicist

802
00:39:57,230 --> 00:39:53,940
let us check your work

803
00:39:58,849 --> 00:39:57,240
or is that not accurate Mr Knapp

804
00:40:00,650 --> 00:39:58,859
however these claims were made

805
00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:00,660
informally and off the Record very

806
00:40:05,329 --> 00:40:02,880
convenient Knapp has said that those

807
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:05,339
employees were friends of lazars and is

808
00:40:10,430 --> 00:40:08,640
only specifically named Joe vianetti is

809
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,440
being the one who confirmed it however

810
00:40:14,690 --> 00:40:12,240
vianetti has never said anything

811
00:40:17,150 --> 00:40:14,700
publicly regarding lazar's role at the

812
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:17,160
lab there is substantial evidence that

813
00:40:21,650 --> 00:40:19,260
vianetti had a significant interest in

814
00:40:24,410 --> 00:40:21,660
UFOs and was involved in UFO research

815
00:40:26,750 --> 00:40:24,420
with Bob before and after Bob claims to

816
00:40:28,250 --> 00:40:26,760
have worked at S4 and isn't that

817
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:28,260
interesting because Bob claims that he

818
00:40:32,750 --> 00:40:30,720
had no interest in UFOs meanwhile he's

819
00:40:35,089 --> 00:40:32,760
hanging out with John Lear getting all

820
00:40:37,130 --> 00:40:35,099
of the Billy Meyer Material with his

821
00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:37,140
friend Gene huff and he's hanging out

822
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,060
with his friend vianetti who has an

823
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:41,760
interest in UFOs

824
00:40:46,370 --> 00:40:44,160
okay for example Bob Lazar and Joe

825
00:40:48,530 --> 00:40:46,380
vianetti had visited the vicinity of

826
00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:48,540
Groom Lake Area 51 in the months before

827
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:50,460
Bob claimed to have worked at the site

828
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,560
vianetti later attended media interviews

829
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:54,480
with Bob and even plays a minor role in

830
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:57,119
Bob's story wherein he accompanies Bob

831
00:41:01,730 --> 00:40:59,760
to a Las Vegas casino for a clandestine

832
00:41:04,609 --> 00:41:01,740
meeting with Bob's former supervisor at

833
00:41:06,290 --> 00:41:04,619
S4 Dennis Mariani

834
00:41:08,270 --> 00:41:06,300
the following are the first published

835
00:41:11,150 --> 00:41:08,280
interviews with former

836
00:41:14,750 --> 00:41:11,160
Los Alamos National Laboratory employees

837
00:41:16,910 --> 00:41:14,760
who knew or worked with Bob at the lab

838
00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:16,920
so here's where we get to the good stuff

839
00:41:21,530 --> 00:41:19,020
because there's a physicist that this

840
00:41:23,329 --> 00:41:21,540
researcher identified the physicist I

841
00:41:25,730 --> 00:41:23,339
was able to identify two former lab

842
00:41:28,190 --> 00:41:25,740
employees who worked directly with Bob

843
00:41:30,290 --> 00:41:28,200
and were able to speak to what he did at

844
00:41:33,050 --> 00:41:30,300
Los Alamos and the circumstances of his

845
00:41:35,089 --> 00:41:33,060
departure his first former lab employee

846
00:41:37,730 --> 00:41:35,099
is the physicist who ran the lab Bob

847
00:41:40,730 --> 00:41:37,740
claimed he worked at in as a physicist

848
00:41:44,569 --> 00:41:40,740
the polarized proton section this

849
00:41:47,089 --> 00:41:44,579
physicist's name is John jarmer and here

850
00:41:50,510 --> 00:41:47,099
we go on the record Source that's going

851
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:50,520
to dispute all the lies that Jeremy

852
00:41:55,609 --> 00:41:53,280
Corbell Bob Lazar and George Knapp have

853
00:41:57,710 --> 00:41:55,619
been repeating for years

854
00:41:59,990 --> 00:41:57,720
drummer worked at the lab

855
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:00,000
for over two decades in the polarized

856
00:42:06,290 --> 00:42:03,599
proton section John jarmer Bob Lazar and

857
00:42:08,089 --> 00:42:06,300
Joe vianetti's lab directory and entries

858
00:42:10,910 --> 00:42:08,099
and it's important to note

859
00:42:14,809 --> 00:42:10,920
that when we get to Bob Lazar Robert

860
00:42:17,690 --> 00:42:14,819
Lazar you see the km next to his name

861
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:17,700
that stands for Kirk Meyer Kirk Meyer

862
00:42:23,930 --> 00:42:20,240
did not hire physicists they only hired

863
00:42:27,770 --> 00:42:23,940
Electronics technicians right

864
00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:31,670
isn't that interesting

865
00:42:38,030 --> 00:42:34,609
and it appears that Mr vianetti was

866
00:42:39,530 --> 00:42:38,040
under a different subcontractor not Kirk

867
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:39,540
Meyer

868
00:42:43,550 --> 00:42:41,520
so Bob's friend and colleague Joe

869
00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:43,560
vianetti who worked at the lab as a

870
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,540
technician with him is listed as an

871
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:48,000
author on multiple original research

872
00:42:52,730 --> 00:42:50,880
papers alongside John jarmer and this

873
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:52,740
researcher found some of those research

874
00:42:59,630 --> 00:42:58,010
the researcher goes on to State I have

875
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,640
confirmed with multiple former lab

876
00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:01,440
employees in lab documentation that

877
00:43:07,069 --> 00:43:03,420
dharmer worked in the polarized proton

878
00:43:09,170 --> 00:43:07,079
section as Bob's direct supervisor

879
00:43:12,109 --> 00:43:09,180
isn't that interesting so now we have

880
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:12,119
the actual Guy this is who Bob Lazar

881
00:43:16,609 --> 00:43:15,119
works for in the lab that he worked and

882
00:43:20,510 --> 00:43:16,619
what is this guy going to have to say

883
00:43:22,849 --> 00:43:20,520
about what Bob did there was he indeed a

884
00:43:25,849 --> 00:43:22,859
real scientist a physicist like Bob

885
00:43:28,130 --> 00:43:25,859
Lazar claimed author does the name Bob

886
00:43:30,349 --> 00:43:28,140
Lazar ring a bell John's armor yes it

887
00:43:32,089 --> 00:43:30,359
does author I was just trying to verify

888
00:43:36,410 --> 00:43:32,099
that he actually was a physicist working

889
00:43:38,930 --> 00:43:36,420
on that polarized Proton Pro project

890
00:43:40,970 --> 00:43:38,940
John jarmer no not a physicist to the

891
00:43:42,829 --> 00:43:40,980
best of my knowledge author

892
00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:42,839
could you tell me what role you remember

893
00:43:47,930 --> 00:43:45,599
him having John well when I was at Los

894
00:43:50,990 --> 00:43:47,940
Alamos at the lab working he did some

895
00:43:53,329 --> 00:43:51,000
electrical technician work that I'm

896
00:43:55,849 --> 00:43:53,339
aware of there was no reference to him

897
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:55,859
ever having a background in physics if

898
00:43:59,390 --> 00:43:57,599
he does he should be able to put forth

899
00:44:02,210 --> 00:43:59,400
his degree credentials wherever they're

900
00:44:05,630 --> 00:44:02,220
from yeah and uh we know what happens

901
00:44:08,030 --> 00:44:05,640
when you try to verify Bob lazar's fake

902
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:08,040
degree credentials right their fate they

903
00:44:13,130 --> 00:44:09,119
don't exist

904
00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:13,140
so this author this guy John jarmer who

905
00:44:19,370 --> 00:44:16,079
was his boss at the lab he worked at

906
00:44:22,010 --> 00:44:19,380
says he did some electrical technician

907
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:22,020
work that I'm aware of author could you

908
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:23,280
tell me a little bit about what kind of

909
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:25,920
work he would have done John

910
00:44:30,770 --> 00:44:28,800
Johner his boss says possibly some

911
00:44:32,210 --> 00:44:30,780
one-time boss says possibly some

912
00:44:34,250 --> 00:44:32,220
Electronics associated with the project

913
00:44:36,050 --> 00:44:34,260
that he was working in support of I mean

914
00:44:37,970 --> 00:44:36,060
it could be I'm not saying this is

915
00:44:40,190 --> 00:44:37,980
anything related to what he's claiming

916
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:40,200
or what he may have done but as an

917
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:42,000
example of what a support electrical

918
00:44:45,710 --> 00:44:44,160
Tech would do if you were setting up an

919
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,720
experiment and he needed to have an

920
00:44:49,370 --> 00:44:47,520
interface module to go between the

921
00:44:51,290 --> 00:44:49,380
detectors that were being used

922
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:51,300
interfacing into the computer and

923
00:44:55,370 --> 00:44:52,800
putting that system together and the

924
00:44:57,950 --> 00:44:55,380
cabling that would be an example

925
00:45:00,589 --> 00:44:57,960
not what he may have done but what a

926
00:45:02,270 --> 00:45:00,599
Support Tech would do author was the lab

927
00:45:04,190 --> 00:45:02,280
closed to the public would you have had

928
00:45:06,290 --> 00:45:04,200
to go through security to get there

929
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:06,300
John jarmer says yes you would have to

930
00:45:09,410 --> 00:45:07,680
have a clearance and a badge to be able

931
00:45:11,690 --> 00:45:09,420
to get into the site where I worked

932
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:11,700
authors so he would have had a clearance

933
00:45:15,650 --> 00:45:13,920
John I don't know the status of any of

934
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:15,660
the clearance he would have had but you

935
00:45:20,210 --> 00:45:17,520
did have to show your ID badge in order

936
00:45:21,710 --> 00:45:20,220
to have access to the site author did

937
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:21,720
you have any experience with him what

938
00:45:27,230 --> 00:45:24,720
was your read on him John jarmer says he

939
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:27,240
was there for a limited period of time

940
00:45:32,030 --> 00:45:30,240
and he didn't overly impress me as being

941
00:45:33,470 --> 00:45:32,040
the sharpest knife in the drawer or

942
00:45:36,530 --> 00:45:33,480
anything like that

943
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:36,540
that's what I'll leave it at author

944
00:45:39,170 --> 00:45:38,160
you were there for the whole time that

945
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:39,180
he was there

946
00:45:43,609 --> 00:45:42,000
John jarmer says I retired in 2006 so

947
00:45:46,130 --> 00:45:43,619
that span I was there would have covered

948
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:46,140
the time he was there author I have

949
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:47,760
heard the reason Bob lost his job is

950
00:45:51,890 --> 00:45:49,440
that he was using government property to

951
00:45:54,050 --> 00:45:51,900
work on personal projects John Dormer

952
00:45:56,030 --> 00:45:54,060
goes on to say I don't have a comment

953
00:45:57,950 --> 00:45:56,040
relative to that

954
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:57,960
a brief follow-up was conducted in

955
00:46:03,050 --> 00:46:01,200
January of 2022. John says when he

956
00:46:05,150 --> 00:46:03,060
worked for my section I can't even

957
00:46:07,309 --> 00:46:05,160
remember the length of time but it

958
00:46:09,170 --> 00:46:07,319
wasn't too long but I can't make any

959
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:09,180
comment on what happened after he wasn't

960
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:11,040
working with us

961
00:46:16,190 --> 00:46:13,920
when I say us I mean myself and the

962
00:46:18,650 --> 00:46:16,200
technicians that were working with me

963
00:46:20,450 --> 00:46:18,660
author but he worked as an electrical

964
00:46:23,450 --> 00:46:20,460
technician in the capacity in your lab

965
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:23,460
John yes that's correct author would you

966
00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:25,200
have any release reason to believe that

967
00:46:30,890 --> 00:46:28,319
he moved into a higher role John jarmer

968
00:46:33,470 --> 00:46:30,900
no as I said when he stopped working

969
00:46:35,569 --> 00:46:33,480
with us he was I'll use the term a

970
00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:35,579
temporary guy that was working with us

971
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,740
after he stopped working with us I

972
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:39,599
didn't follow him in any way form or

973
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:40,560
fashion

974
00:46:44,690 --> 00:46:42,720
I got on with that detailed work that

975
00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:44,700
our section was involved in and moved on

976
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:47,160
from that point if he worked at the lab

977
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:49,200
after he worked for us in the polarized

978
00:46:52,490 --> 00:46:51,119
Target section then he would be able to

979
00:46:55,970 --> 00:46:52,500
give the name of the group or

980
00:46:59,329 --> 00:46:57,770
author did you happen to remember the

981
00:47:01,970 --> 00:46:59,339
name of the other technician that worked

982
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:01,980
with Bob I believe Joe vianetti was one

983
00:47:06,530 --> 00:47:04,319
of them but my understanding was there

984
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:06,540
were three

985
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:09,359
John jarmer says Joe vianetti was one

986
00:47:13,309 --> 00:47:11,040
for sure I would have to think about

987
00:47:15,710 --> 00:47:13,319
that for a while before I could say who

988
00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:15,720
the other technicians are so here we

989
00:47:23,089 --> 00:47:19,200
have the actual person who was Bob

990
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:23,099
lazar's boss at this lab who says he

991
00:47:27,770 --> 00:47:25,200
wasn't a physicist he didn't move up

992
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:27,780
near as he could tell and that if he was

993
00:47:30,890 --> 00:47:29,520
a physicist hey he should be able to

994
00:47:32,569 --> 00:47:30,900
show your credentials but of course he

995
00:47:35,329 --> 00:47:32,579
can't show his credentials Bob Lazar

996
00:47:40,670 --> 00:47:35,339
because his credentials are fake

997
00:47:46,970 --> 00:47:44,030
the sound of Bob lazar's lies are coming

998
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:46,980
crashing down here like I said now we've

999
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:49,920
got three strikes education fake

1000
00:47:54,410 --> 00:47:52,319
being a scientist fake

1001
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:54,420
claiming he was a physicist at a very

1002
00:47:58,970 --> 00:47:57,119
prestigious lab fake

1003
00:48:00,530 --> 00:47:58,980
all right next

1004
00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:00,540
the researcher gets into an

1005
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:02,160
administrator the second former lab

1006
00:48:06,170 --> 00:48:04,319
employee he identified who worked with

1007
00:48:08,329 --> 00:48:06,180
Bob had multiple roles at the lab but

1008
00:48:11,390 --> 00:48:08,339
engaged with Bob in an administrative

1009
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:11,400
role I am not able to mention what role

1010
00:48:15,230 --> 00:48:12,900
specifically is you do not want to be

1011
00:48:17,690 --> 00:48:15,240
identified I will refer to him as Fred

1012
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:17,700
but this is a corroborating witness that

1013
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:19,440
this person verified the employment of

1014
00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:21,839
and believes is a very good source we

1015
00:48:26,030 --> 00:48:24,000
talked about this today author does the

1016
00:48:29,569 --> 00:48:26,040
name Bob Lazar ring any bells Fred yeah

1017
00:48:32,030 --> 00:48:29,579
author it does Fred it does

1018
00:48:33,710 --> 00:48:32,040
author I spoke to John jarmer he did

1019
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:33,720
remember Bob and was able to tell me a

1020
00:48:37,609 --> 00:48:35,760
little bit about his recollection

1021
00:48:40,670 --> 00:48:37,619
but I was hoping you might be able to

1022
00:48:42,589 --> 00:48:40,680
tell me a little bit more Fred I am

1023
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,599
really reluctant to get into that I was

1024
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:44,400
describes role in relation to John's

1025
00:48:48,109 --> 00:48:46,800
laboratory so yes I know the person in

1026
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:48,119
question but I really don't want to get

1027
00:48:52,130 --> 00:48:49,680
involved in anything having to do with

1028
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:52,140
him author

1029
00:48:56,270 --> 00:48:54,240
I'm really trying to get a sense for who

1030
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:56,280
Bob was and the kind of role that he had

1031
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:57,119
there

1032
00:49:01,069 --> 00:48:59,280
and even if you were to tell me that

1033
00:49:02,809 --> 00:49:01,079
completely off the record I would be

1034
00:49:04,970 --> 00:49:02,819
very curious to hear about that and I do

1035
00:49:07,970 --> 00:49:04,980
understand the hesitance Fred

1036
00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:07,980
okay the really short part of the answer

1037
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:10,559
is that Bob is very smart but a crooked

1038
00:49:15,230 --> 00:49:13,680
bent person I don't believe he had I

1039
00:49:17,150 --> 00:49:15,240
don't even know that he finished high

1040
00:49:19,130 --> 00:49:17,160
school he certainly had no college

1041
00:49:21,950 --> 00:49:19,140
education and he never worked for Los

1042
00:49:24,349 --> 00:49:21,960
Alamos laboratory okay he was employed

1043
00:49:26,690 --> 00:49:24,359
by Butler Fred later clarified he met

1044
00:49:29,329 --> 00:49:26,700
Kirk Meyer who supplied contract

1045
00:49:31,609 --> 00:49:29,339
technicians to the laboratory and beyond

1046
00:49:33,410 --> 00:49:31,619
that you know I've heard that he had

1047
00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:33,420
some stuff that's been published and

1048
00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:36,319
most of it is fantasy

1049
00:49:39,770 --> 00:49:38,760
he worked at the laboratory for a short

1050
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:39,780
time

1051
00:49:44,569 --> 00:49:42,720
got cross-wise with the management

1052
00:49:48,049 --> 00:49:44,579
because he was missing the laboratory

1053
00:49:48,059 --> 00:49:52,370
and so they let him go

1054
00:49:56,210 --> 00:49:54,170
which was easy because he didn't work

1055
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,220
for the lab

1056
00:50:01,190 --> 00:49:58,800
back in the late 70s early 80s there was

1057
00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:01,200
a U.S government supported thing called

1058
00:50:06,650 --> 00:50:04,319
the Watts wide area telephone service

1059
00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:06,660
and if you had an access number you

1060
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:09,359
would get on and call pretty much

1061
00:50:13,069 --> 00:50:10,800
anywhere in the country without any

1062
00:50:16,130 --> 00:50:13,079
charge and so he was running some kind

1063
00:50:18,770 --> 00:50:16,140
of business using the telephone system

1064
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:18,780
author just to be clear he was not a

1065
00:50:23,569 --> 00:50:21,839
physicist at the land Fred no

1066
00:50:25,730 --> 00:50:23,579
author do you know how long he worked

1067
00:50:28,010 --> 00:50:25,740
there for Fred a matter of a few months

1068
00:50:30,530 --> 00:50:28,020
and then again it's been 40 years it was

1069
00:50:34,010 --> 00:50:30,540
less than a year author Bob's wife also

1070
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:34,020
worked the lab her name was Carol Lazar

1071
00:50:38,809 --> 00:50:36,960
Fred yep again as a contract technician

1072
00:50:41,150 --> 00:50:38,819
so here we have a new revelation that

1073
00:50:42,770 --> 00:50:41,160
Bob's first wife uh the one who

1074
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:42,780
committed suicide

1075
00:50:46,970 --> 00:50:45,119
also worked at the lab as a contract

1076
00:50:49,069 --> 00:50:46,980
technician according to this Source

1077
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:49,079
author I was told she had the contract

1078
00:50:55,130 --> 00:50:51,359
to help fix Alpha probes do you have an

1079
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:55,140
awareness of that Fred says to fix what

1080
00:50:59,870 --> 00:50:56,880
author I guess they had a contract to

1081
00:51:02,210 --> 00:50:59,880
fix Alpha radiation probes Fred yes the

1082
00:51:04,910 --> 00:51:02,220
detectors they basically had a thin foil

1083
00:51:06,650 --> 00:51:04,920
window which was easily damaged and they

1084
00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:06,660
had set up to replace those bruised

1085
00:51:10,670 --> 00:51:09,119
Windows author do you have any

1086
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:10,680
recollection of anything that happened

1087
00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:12,960
after he left the lab

1088
00:51:17,690 --> 00:51:15,660
Fred well he did run a one hour photo

1089
00:51:19,549 --> 00:51:17,700
processing business at some point he

1090
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,559
shut that down and left

1091
00:51:23,329 --> 00:51:21,599
when asked who else worked with Bob and

1092
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,339
would be worth speaking to Fred referred

1093
00:51:27,650 --> 00:51:25,440
me to Joe vianetti as he was one of the

1094
00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:27,660
other two technicians in drummer's Lab

1095
00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:29,760
at the time Bob worked there I

1096
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:31,920
identified and interviewed one more

1097
00:51:36,349 --> 00:51:34,319
former lab employee who worked in a

1098
00:51:38,930 --> 00:51:36,359
scientific role in the Mason physics

1099
00:51:40,730 --> 00:51:38,940
facility and knew of Bob Lazar though

1100
00:51:42,530 --> 00:51:40,740
only because he had worked closely with

1101
00:51:45,049 --> 00:51:42,540
John jarmer and he had heard about Bob

1102
00:51:47,150 --> 00:51:45,059
through him and other colleagues in a

1103
00:51:48,829 --> 00:51:47,160
water cooler setting he did not want to

1104
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:48,839
be identified due to the nature of the

1105
00:51:52,130 --> 00:51:50,880
conversation we'll refer to him as Henry

1106
00:51:55,730 --> 00:51:52,140
the following excerpts of the interview

1107
00:51:58,490 --> 00:51:55,740
conducted January of 2022. author do you

1108
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:58,500
recognize the name Bob Lazar Henry is he

1109
00:52:02,329 --> 00:52:00,000
possibly the guy that was out at Las

1110
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:02,339
Vegas that's right that would be the one

1111
00:52:06,589 --> 00:52:04,319
Henry I've heard of the name heard a few

1112
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:06,599
things about him Arthur I've talked to a

1113
00:52:09,950 --> 00:52:07,920
couple of people at the lab who do

1114
00:52:11,630 --> 00:52:09,960
remember him I was wondering if you have

1115
00:52:13,609 --> 00:52:11,640
any recollection of the time he was

1116
00:52:16,190 --> 00:52:13,619
there or what he might have done Henry

1117
00:52:19,250 --> 00:52:16,200
you know I was there from what 72 to I

1118
00:52:20,990 --> 00:52:19,260
guess 2008 well but most of the time I

1119
00:52:23,930 --> 00:52:21,000
was always out at the linear accelerator

1120
00:52:24,890 --> 00:52:23,940
and mostly to do in an engineering

1121
00:52:27,170 --> 00:52:24,900
department

1122
00:52:28,609 --> 00:52:27,180
I heard his name you know bandied about

1123
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:28,619
a few times but I really don't know

1124
00:52:33,410 --> 00:52:31,680
anything about him there

1125
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:33,420
Arthur do you remember anything you

1126
00:52:35,930 --> 00:52:35,040
heard about him while he was working at

1127
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:35,940
the lab

1128
00:52:39,890 --> 00:52:38,160
Henry well unfortunately one guy I know

1129
00:52:42,290 --> 00:52:39,900
that worked with him for a while was Joe

1130
00:52:45,770 --> 00:52:42,300
King he got killed in a motorcycle wreck

1131
00:52:47,809 --> 00:52:45,780
was joking a technician yes author I

1132
00:52:50,750 --> 00:52:47,819
know there were three technicians Joe V

1133
00:52:52,910 --> 00:52:50,760
and Eddie Bob and one more yeah I knew

1134
00:52:55,250 --> 00:52:52,920
Henry says yeah I knew viennetti another

1135
00:52:57,650 --> 00:52:55,260
tech that worked there for a long time

1136
00:52:59,630 --> 00:52:57,660
was Joe King but Joe got killed in a

1137
00:53:01,130 --> 00:52:59,640
motorcycle wreck God I don't know 20

1138
00:53:04,970 --> 00:53:01,140
years ago I guess

1139
00:53:07,309 --> 00:53:04,980
or more up up here somehow somewhere

1140
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:07,319
uh the author tells Henry about the

1141
00:53:10,130 --> 00:53:08,880
conversation with John jarmer and asked

1142
00:53:12,829 --> 00:53:10,140
him if John had ever shared anything

1143
00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:12,839
about Bob Henry says yeah I had John

1144
00:53:16,730 --> 00:53:14,160
mention it because I worked with John

1145
00:53:19,370 --> 00:53:16,740
for a long long time I know John didn't

1146
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:19,380
seem to have a high opinion of Bob says

1147
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:22,079
the author Henry says yes I think I

1148
00:53:26,809 --> 00:53:24,720
would probably say that I believe that

1149
00:53:29,690 --> 00:53:26,819
that would be John's opinion author did

1150
00:53:32,809 --> 00:53:29,700
he tell you anything specific or just

1151
00:53:35,089 --> 00:53:32,819
Bob's General work Henry no just the

1152
00:53:36,770 --> 00:53:35,099
only thing he ever said mostly was the

1153
00:53:39,290 --> 00:53:36,780
work ethic which apparently he didn't

1154
00:53:41,390 --> 00:53:39,300
think was very high and John believed in

1155
00:53:44,290 --> 00:53:41,400
John was out there many hours every day

1156
00:53:46,670 --> 00:53:44,300
he believed in working

1157
00:53:48,530 --> 00:53:46,680
author Bob wrote a book a couple of

1158
00:53:50,750 --> 00:53:48,540
years and talked about pulling I guess

1159
00:53:53,870 --> 00:53:50,760
pranks the lab which would be I think

1160
00:53:55,309 --> 00:53:53,880
would be frowned upon Henry says yeah

1161
00:53:56,750 --> 00:53:55,319
there was a lot of stuff out there that

1162
00:53:59,450 --> 00:53:56,760
didn't go over real well with those

1163
00:54:01,370 --> 00:53:59,460
there were some fairly serious people

1164
00:54:02,990 --> 00:54:01,380
and you know doing some fairly serious

1165
00:54:05,569 --> 00:54:03,000
work so that sort of thing was frowned

1166
00:54:07,130 --> 00:54:05,579
upon pretty highly author from what I

1167
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:07,140
understand he worked there for less than

1168
00:54:11,809 --> 00:54:09,359
a year Henry yeah it was very short

1169
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:11,819
pretty short span I'd heard a few things

1170
00:54:16,130 --> 00:54:14,160
but that was you know old lab Grapevine

1171
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:16,140
author would you be able to share with

1172
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:18,000
me anything you heard even things that

1173
00:54:22,490 --> 00:54:20,160
were water cooler talk Henry the only

1174
00:54:24,650 --> 00:54:22,500
thing I can remember ever really hearing

1175
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:24,660
was you know the guy didn't he didn't do

1176
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,400
anything while he was there apparently

1177
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:28,079
and I know that

1178
00:54:33,290 --> 00:54:30,960
was what John thought and that he was a

1179
00:54:34,670 --> 00:54:33,300
complete waste of time author I spoke

1180
00:54:36,589 --> 00:54:34,680
with another man who had worked around

1181
00:54:38,450 --> 00:54:36,599
Bob and he told me

1182
00:54:40,010 --> 00:54:38,460
was that the some point Bob had been

1183
00:54:42,109 --> 00:54:40,020
making long-distance calls on the

1184
00:54:43,849 --> 00:54:42,119
laboratory phones to run a side business

1185
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:43,859
and from what his other gentleman said

1186
00:54:47,450 --> 00:54:45,359
Bob had been going

1187
00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:47,460
after using the phone system for his

1188
00:54:51,410 --> 00:54:49,440
side business had come to light or he

1189
00:54:53,390 --> 00:54:51,420
had been let go after using the phone

1190
00:54:56,809 --> 00:54:53,400
system for a side business I'd come to

1191
00:54:59,329 --> 00:54:56,819
light or come to management attention

1192
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:59,339
Henry I remember at the lab there was a

1193
00:55:03,289 --> 00:55:00,960
number of people that left under similar

1194
00:55:05,329 --> 00:55:03,299
circumstances they thought that would be

1195
00:55:07,010 --> 00:55:05,339
okay there were people that seemed to

1196
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:07,020
think that because the government was

1197
00:55:10,970 --> 00:55:09,359
paying for it that it was okay author

1198
00:55:12,890 --> 00:55:10,980
you know it's funny the lab directory

1199
00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:12,900
specifically talks about making personal

1200
00:55:16,370 --> 00:55:15,119
long-distance calls it does seem that

1201
00:55:18,049 --> 00:55:16,380
they had multiple

1202
00:55:20,569 --> 00:55:18,059
they had maybe run into that problem

1203
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:23,569
Henry they definitely did

1204
00:55:27,710 --> 00:55:25,680
there were I remember places out there

1205
00:55:28,670 --> 00:55:27,720
where you know there you would be in the

1206
00:55:31,069 --> 00:55:28,680
phones and buildings that had

1207
00:55:33,230 --> 00:55:31,079
experiments in them before and as long

1208
00:55:34,970 --> 00:55:33,240
as the system was still operable there

1209
00:55:36,829 --> 00:55:34,980
would be horrendous bills run up you

1210
00:55:39,710 --> 00:55:36,839
know everywhere in the world and I know

1211
00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:39,720
that kind of thing went on

1212
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:41,520
something I heard from many scientists

1213
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:43,200
and staff who had worked at Los Alamos

1214
00:55:47,569 --> 00:55:45,359
during the time Bob was there but Bob

1215
00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:47,579
had been a physicist working in the

1216
00:55:52,190 --> 00:55:50,160
polarized proton section they would have

1217
00:55:54,349 --> 00:55:52,200
known him the very fact that they do not

1218
00:55:56,690 --> 00:55:54,359
know him was near proof they told me

1219
00:55:58,849 --> 00:55:56,700
that Bob was not a physicist there Los

1220
00:56:00,589 --> 00:55:58,859
Alamos physicist Earl Hoffman had this

1221
00:56:03,049 --> 00:56:00,599
to say when asked about his memory of

1222
00:56:04,849 --> 00:56:03,059
babazar here's another on the record

1223
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:04,859
Source now we have another physicist

1224
00:56:10,609 --> 00:56:07,440
that worked at Los Alamos that will

1225
00:56:13,609 --> 00:56:10,619
contradict Bob Lazar and his fake

1226
00:56:16,250 --> 00:56:13,619
stories of being a real scientist

1227
00:56:18,530 --> 00:56:16,260
so Earl Hoffman goes on to say my

1228
00:56:20,510 --> 00:56:18,540
recollection was he was a technician

1229
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:20,520
which would not be a physicist I'm sure

1230
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:22,559
he wasn't a physicist because if he was

1231
00:56:27,530 --> 00:56:25,200
I would have known him well because I

1232
00:56:28,970 --> 00:56:27,540
was a physicist and let me back that up

1233
00:56:32,089 --> 00:56:28,980
just a little bit

1234
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:32,099
he was at unintelligible we called it

1235
00:56:36,349 --> 00:56:34,079
that was the accelerator when I knew

1236
00:56:38,270 --> 00:56:36,359
about him and he was off in an adjacent

1237
00:56:40,130 --> 00:56:38,280
building which is a little bit separated

1238
00:56:42,770 --> 00:56:40,140
from the others I knew he was over there

1239
00:56:44,750 --> 00:56:42,780
because of his weird name because when

1240
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:44,760
he fired that car up you could hear it

1241
00:56:50,690 --> 00:56:47,520
all over town and that's miles and I

1242
00:56:52,250 --> 00:56:50,700
think I think I never met him I would

1243
00:56:54,289 --> 00:56:52,260
put quite a bit of money on whether he

1244
00:56:56,510 --> 00:56:54,299
was a physicist or not and I would say

1245
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:56,520
no I think he was a technician of some

1246
00:57:01,549 --> 00:56:58,319
sort but I couldn't even tell you what

1247
00:57:03,289 --> 00:57:01,559
kind of technician there we go another

1248
00:57:04,609 --> 00:57:03,299
physicist that says he was not a

1249
00:57:06,589 --> 00:57:04,619
physicist or I would have known him

1250
00:57:08,210 --> 00:57:06,599
another physicist who had especially

1251
00:57:11,809 --> 00:57:08,220
important reason to know Bob is Richard

1252
00:57:15,650 --> 00:57:11,819
Evans mishk misht worked as in

1253
00:57:17,630 --> 00:57:15,660
management in the Mason physics facility

1254
00:57:19,609 --> 00:57:17,640
during the time period Bob worked at the

1255
00:57:22,430 --> 00:57:19,619
lab and he was in charge of the hiring

1256
00:57:24,650 --> 00:57:22,440
process for the physicists here we go

1257
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,660
friends now we've got the guy that

1258
00:57:28,609 --> 00:57:26,400
actually hires the physicists that work

1259
00:57:30,770 --> 00:57:28,619
on the lab and he's going to tell you

1260
00:57:31,789 --> 00:57:30,780
that bibles are lied he was never a

1261
00:57:34,010 --> 00:57:31,799
physicist

1262
00:57:36,049 --> 00:57:34,020
mesh holds a PhD in physics from

1263
00:57:38,410 --> 00:57:36,059
Princeton University and began his work

1264
00:57:41,450 --> 00:57:38,420
at Los Alamos National Laboratory in

1265
00:57:43,250 --> 00:57:41,460
1971. the following is an excerpt of an

1266
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:43,260
interview conducted with mishk in the

1267
00:57:49,670 --> 00:57:47,040
July of 2021 meshk

1268
00:57:51,230 --> 00:57:49,680
what year was he supposedly working at

1269
00:57:54,109 --> 00:57:51,240
Los Alamos

1270
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:54,119
author would have been in 1982 to 1985

1271
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:56,160
at the most John jarmer told me that he

1272
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:58,319
would have been there for no more than a

1273
00:58:01,789 --> 00:57:59,760
couple of months but less than a year

1274
00:58:03,710 --> 00:58:01,799
and there was a phone directory that has

1275
00:58:05,089 --> 00:58:03,720
his name on it he was a contractor for

1276
00:58:07,910 --> 00:58:05,099
Kirk Meyer

1277
00:58:10,010 --> 00:58:07,920
misk oh so he wasn't actually a lab

1278
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:10,020
employee then see this is an important

1279
00:58:14,450 --> 00:58:12,480
part Bob Lazar doesn't say I worked as a

1280
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:14,460
subcontractor for Los Alamos National

1281
00:58:18,650 --> 00:58:16,319
Lab he always says he worked at Los

1282
00:58:20,750 --> 00:58:18,660
Alamos National Lab that's not true he

1283
00:58:22,730 --> 00:58:20,760
worked as a subcontractor through Kirk

1284
00:58:24,829 --> 00:58:22,740
Meyer who only hired Electronics

1285
00:58:26,450 --> 00:58:24,839
technicians but here we go author he

1286
00:58:28,750 --> 00:58:26,460
claims he started as a technician and

1287
00:58:30,770 --> 00:58:28,760
became a physicist the only document

1288
00:58:33,170 --> 00:58:30,780
documentation says he was a contractor

1289
00:58:36,770 --> 00:58:33,180
for Kirk Meyer that aligns with what I

1290
00:58:38,450 --> 00:58:36,780
was told by John mishk okay so yeah that

1291
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:38,460
I can say definitely I served in

1292
00:58:43,549 --> 00:58:40,319
management during that period And if he

1293
00:58:46,910 --> 00:58:43,559
had been a physicist I would have hired

1294
00:58:49,309 --> 00:58:46,920
him so that is I could say definitely

1295
00:58:52,730 --> 00:58:49,319
not credible

1296
00:58:55,609 --> 00:58:52,740
wow friends so we've got to let we've

1297
00:58:57,530 --> 00:58:55,619
got the lab technician that was his boss

1298
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:57,540
saying he wasn't a physicist we've got

1299
00:59:02,289 --> 00:59:00,720
other sources that were verified but

1300
00:59:04,970 --> 00:59:02,299
wanted to remain off the Record

1301
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:04,980
verifying no he wasn't a physicist he

1302
00:59:08,930 --> 00:59:06,960
was a technician now we've got the guy

1303
00:59:11,089 --> 00:59:08,940
who actually would have been responsible

1304
00:59:15,049 --> 00:59:11,099
for hiring him if he wasn't real

1305
00:59:17,210 --> 00:59:15,059
physicist saying no I never hired him so

1306
00:59:21,049 --> 00:59:17,220
that is I could say definitely not

1307
00:59:23,809 --> 00:59:21,059
credible now on to this doctor uh Robert

1308
00:59:25,370 --> 00:59:23,819
krangle who Jeremy Corbell claimed was

1309
00:59:27,829 --> 00:59:25,380
sure that Bob Bazaar was a real

1310
00:59:30,109 --> 00:59:27,839
physicist and a real scientist Dr

1311
00:59:31,849 --> 00:59:30,119
krangle is an MIT educated scientist who

1312
00:59:34,670 --> 00:59:31,859
has consulted for Los Alamos National

1313
00:59:36,890 --> 00:59:34,680
Laboratory at various times since 1980.

1314
00:59:38,510 --> 00:59:36,900
in the interview Cordell krangle had the

1315
00:59:40,190 --> 00:59:38,520
following Exchange

1316
00:59:42,049 --> 00:59:40,200
Corbell what was your first interaction

1317
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:42,059
with with Lazar

1318
00:59:44,930 --> 00:59:43,680
krangle well it wasn't much of an

1319
00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:44,940
interaction it was one of those things

1320
00:59:48,410 --> 00:59:46,799
like security meetings you have to go to

1321
00:59:49,789 --> 00:59:48,420
that once a week every couple of weeks

1322
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:49,799
and they give you the usual briefing

1323
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:51,359
about don't talk about what you're doing

1324
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:53,760
don't talk about what you see

1325
00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:56,160
so Lazar if you've seen him he kind of

1326
01:00:00,650 --> 00:59:58,079
stands out frankly I think he looks like

1327
01:00:03,170 --> 01:00:00,660
Hawkins he has the same British Norman

1328
01:00:05,930 --> 01:00:03,180
facial structure krangle goes on to say

1329
01:00:07,609 --> 01:00:05,940
we didn't work together but cafeteria

1330
01:00:09,170 --> 01:00:07,619
kind of things you'd pass him and some

1331
01:00:11,390 --> 01:00:09,180
of the Commander's call meetings you'd

1332
01:00:13,789 --> 01:00:11,400
pass him we didn't work together Corbell

1333
01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:13,799
was it your impression that he was a

1334
01:00:19,130 --> 01:00:17,280
concession stand salesman or a janitor

1335
01:00:20,930 --> 01:00:19,140
krangle he was dressed wrong to be a

1336
01:00:23,390 --> 01:00:20,940
janitor Corbell so how did you know Bob

1337
01:00:25,849 --> 01:00:23,400
in what capacity was he there working

1338
01:00:27,710 --> 01:00:25,859
from your knowledge what was he crankle

1339
01:00:29,390 --> 01:00:27,720
well he was a physicist which I'm a

1340
01:00:31,490 --> 01:00:29,400
physicist we kind of recognize each

1341
01:00:33,530 --> 01:00:31,500
other you know it's a classic pocket

1342
01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:33,540
condom and all that proper from colored

1343
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:36,480
pens he fit that mold if nobody would

1344
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:38,160
have told me he's a physicist one look

1345
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:40,079
he's a physicist he's properly dressed

1346
01:00:44,510 --> 01:00:42,720
in geekedom so apparently Mr krangle's

1347
01:00:46,190 --> 01:00:44,520
only proof that babazar was a physicist

1348
01:00:48,410 --> 01:00:46,200
is that he had pens and a pocket

1349
01:00:50,930 --> 01:00:48,420
protector but Corbell ran with this like

1350
01:00:54,109 --> 01:00:50,940
this was the Holy Grail proving all of

1351
01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:54,119
Bob lazar's Lies True Korbel did people

1352
01:00:58,069 --> 01:00:55,680
tell you he was a physicist was that

1353
01:00:59,450 --> 01:00:58,079
ever explained to you krangle in some

1354
01:01:01,549 --> 01:00:59,460
conversation somebody would be talking

1355
01:01:04,010 --> 01:01:01,559
about what somebody was doing and they'd

1356
01:01:06,289 --> 01:01:04,020
point over oh yeah that's him over there

1357
01:01:08,270 --> 01:01:06,299
Korbel what was your impression of what

1358
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:08,280
Bob was doing at Los Alamos in the 80s

1359
01:01:12,770 --> 01:01:11,040
krangle at the time I was there I really

1360
01:01:14,930 --> 01:01:12,780
didn't know what specifically Bob was

1361
01:01:17,210 --> 01:01:14,940
doing we didn't work together we simply

1362
01:01:19,069 --> 01:01:17,220
crossed paths and glancing view I didn't

1363
01:01:23,150 --> 01:01:19,079
know what he was up to any more than he

1364
01:01:25,370 --> 01:01:23,160
knew what I was up to Korbel but you did

1365
01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:25,380
know that he was a physicist krangel yes

1366
01:01:29,690 --> 01:01:27,839
Corbell and that was very clear to you

1367
01:01:32,510 --> 01:01:29,700
that he was a physicist at Los Alamos

1368
01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:32,520
and not like the janitor krangle right

1369
01:01:37,490 --> 01:01:35,280
so you know Jeremy corbel runs with this

1370
01:01:40,010 --> 01:01:37,500
so-called Smoking Gun proof that Bob

1371
01:01:41,809 --> 01:01:40,020
lazar's telling the truth uh and it's

1372
01:01:44,510 --> 01:01:41,819
very suspect because krangle doesn't

1373
01:01:47,630 --> 01:01:44,520
know what he did he doesn't know who he

1374
01:01:50,690 --> 01:01:47,640
worked for what lab he worked in uh and

1375
01:01:52,250 --> 01:01:50,700
we've got the on the record sources that

1376
01:01:54,650 --> 01:01:52,260
do know what lab he worked in and

1377
01:01:57,770 --> 01:01:54,660
exactly what he did Kringle didn't know

1378
01:01:59,930 --> 01:01:57,780
he worked as a consultant there not an

1379
01:02:01,970 --> 01:01:59,940
everyday employee

1380
01:02:03,529 --> 01:02:01,980
so the author goes on estate after

1381
01:02:05,089 --> 01:02:03,539
speaking with Bob's former colleagues

1382
01:02:07,069 --> 01:02:05,099
and other employees at Los Alamos

1383
01:02:08,750 --> 01:02:07,079
National Laboratory I contacted Dr

1384
01:02:10,849 --> 01:02:08,760
Kringle to clarify his statements to

1385
01:02:13,309 --> 01:02:10,859
corbel regarding

1386
01:02:15,890 --> 01:02:13,319
Bob the following are some excerpts from

1387
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:15,900
that conversation krangle there was a

1388
01:02:19,370 --> 01:02:17,760
certain certain pecking order to

1389
01:02:20,930 --> 01:02:19,380
appearance technicians were usually more

1390
01:02:22,910 --> 01:02:20,940
of a blue collar guys and actually

1391
01:02:25,069 --> 01:02:22,920
looked that way the engineers were the

1392
01:02:27,049 --> 01:02:25,079
typical particularly here in New Mexico

1393
01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:27,059
Engineers you could pick them out and

1394
01:02:31,250 --> 01:02:28,559
you can pick them out in New York second

1395
01:02:34,430 --> 01:02:31,260
white shirt pocket condom with a half a

1396
01:02:36,109 --> 01:02:34,440
dozen pen colors and a bolo tie and it

1397
01:02:38,569 --> 01:02:36,119
was pretty much the same thing between

1398
01:02:40,069 --> 01:02:38,579
Los Alamos and Sandia Labs you can

1399
01:02:41,510 --> 01:02:40,079
always pick out the engineers you could

1400
01:02:43,849 --> 01:02:41,520
pick out the technicians and it was

1401
01:02:46,250 --> 01:02:43,859
certainly and certainly who the janitor

1402
01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:46,260
was author I'm just curious given that

1403
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:47,760
there are so many people who have said

1404
01:02:52,250 --> 01:02:49,920
you know I would have known if he was a

1405
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:52,260
physicist there in fact I've you know

1406
01:02:56,029 --> 01:02:53,760
mentioned a lot of times to these people

1407
01:02:57,529 --> 01:02:56,039
they recognize the names is there anyone

1408
01:02:59,329 --> 01:02:57,539
in particular that gives you that level

1409
01:03:01,609 --> 01:02:59,339
of confidence to say I would bet my

1410
01:03:03,250 --> 01:03:01,619
money on him being a physicist krangle

1411
01:03:08,029 --> 01:03:03,260
says no

1412
01:03:10,730 --> 01:03:08,039
anything unequivocally oh absolutely he

1413
01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:10,740
was a physicist no author as far as you

1414
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:12,720
would say that he was a physicist is

1415
01:03:17,569 --> 01:03:14,640
just seeing him there and what he was

1416
01:03:19,370 --> 01:03:17,579
wearing crangal yeah like I said there

1417
01:03:21,289 --> 01:03:19,380
was a kind of dress pecking order and

1418
01:03:23,270 --> 01:03:21,299
that white shirt and pocket on him with

1419
01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:23,280
multiple pens yeah that's not the

1420
01:03:28,190 --> 01:03:26,160
janitor so apparently Mr krangle's only

1421
01:03:30,470 --> 01:03:28,200
indication that babazar was a scientist

1422
01:03:32,329 --> 01:03:30,480
is that Bob wore a white shirt a pocket

1423
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:32,339
condom and had a bunch of pens like all

1424
01:03:38,329 --> 01:03:35,280
the you know physicist nerds doesn't

1425
01:03:40,789 --> 01:03:38,339
prove anything and corbel ran with this

1426
01:03:43,730 --> 01:03:40,799
and now corbel's gonna have to explain

1427
01:03:45,470 --> 01:03:43,740
this author I did not have you on my

1428
01:03:47,569 --> 01:03:45,480
list to give you a call because you were

1429
01:03:49,609 --> 01:03:47,579
certain that Bob was a physicist crangle

1430
01:03:51,650 --> 01:03:49,619
no I was certain that Bob was up there

1431
01:03:54,349 --> 01:03:51,660
one of the comments I certainly made to

1432
01:03:55,309 --> 01:03:54,359
him Corbell was yes I saw certainly saw

1433
01:03:57,829 --> 01:03:55,319
him there

1434
01:03:59,450 --> 01:03:57,839
that he definitely wasn't a janitor

1435
01:04:01,089 --> 01:03:59,460
when asked specifically about the

1436
01:04:03,650 --> 01:04:01,099
statements he had made to Jeremy Corbell

1437
01:04:06,049 --> 01:04:03,660
Dr krangle said that he didn't recall

1438
01:04:08,690 --> 01:04:06,059
making statements that he was certain

1439
01:04:10,250 --> 01:04:08,700
Lazar was a physicist Kringle I don't

1440
01:04:12,529 --> 01:04:10,260
remember saying that I do certainly

1441
01:04:14,990 --> 01:04:12,539
remember saying he certainly wasn't the

1442
01:04:18,049 --> 01:04:15,000
janitor if I said unequivocally that he

1443
01:04:19,970 --> 01:04:18,059
was a physicist then I think that would

1444
01:04:22,490 --> 01:04:19,980
have been wrong

1445
01:04:24,109 --> 01:04:22,500
so is this another case of Jeremy

1446
01:04:26,329 --> 01:04:24,119
Corbell putting words in people's mouth

1447
01:04:27,710 --> 01:04:26,339
that they don't recall saying we've got

1448
01:04:29,569 --> 01:04:27,720
two here

1449
01:04:31,250 --> 01:04:29,579
in the course of conducting interviews I

1450
01:04:32,809 --> 01:04:31,260
spoke with dozens of former Los Alamos

1451
01:04:34,549 --> 01:04:32,819
employees and asked whether it was the

1452
01:04:35,870 --> 01:04:34,559
case that there was a pecking order or a

1453
01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:35,880
typical way that physicists or

1454
01:04:39,770 --> 01:04:37,920
technicians would dress not a single

1455
01:04:41,630 --> 01:04:39,780
former lab employee confirmed that on

1456
01:04:43,370 --> 01:04:41,640
the contrary I was told by every lab

1457
01:04:45,529 --> 01:04:43,380
employee I spoke with that the

1458
01:04:47,089 --> 01:04:45,539
suggestion was completely unfounded and

1459
01:04:49,190 --> 01:04:47,099
that employees in those roles would

1460
01:04:51,049 --> 01:04:49,200
dress however they wanted and it was not

1461
01:04:52,670 --> 01:04:51,059
possible to differentiate between a

1462
01:04:54,049 --> 01:04:52,680
technician or a physicist by the way

1463
01:04:56,270 --> 01:04:54,059
they dressed

1464
01:05:00,349 --> 01:04:56,280
and I would agree with that

1465
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:00,359
uh you know I I worked someplace uh and

1466
01:05:05,870 --> 01:05:02,880
and there was a lot of uh super

1467
01:05:08,390 --> 01:05:05,880
science science guys and big brain

1468
01:05:10,309 --> 01:05:08,400
scientists and some of them dressed with

1469
01:05:12,349 --> 01:05:10,319
a suit and tie every day and some of

1470
01:05:16,130 --> 01:05:12,359
them dressed in flip-flops and hippie

1471
01:05:18,109 --> 01:05:16,140
clothes and uh you know dirty jeans I

1472
01:05:19,970 --> 01:05:18,119
couldn't tell who was a scientist or not

1473
01:05:22,370 --> 01:05:19,980
where I was but that's just my

1474
01:05:25,010 --> 01:05:22,380
experience it appears that Mr kringle's

1475
01:05:27,109 --> 01:05:25,020
only determination for how he decided

1476
01:05:29,150 --> 01:05:27,119
Bob Lazar was a scientist was he had to

1477
01:05:31,730 --> 01:05:29,160
write shirt on and a pocket protector

1478
01:05:33,470 --> 01:05:31,740
like the other science guys

1479
01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:33,480
I don't know

1480
01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:36,240
so the author here goes out of state I

1481
01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:37,680
have not been able to locate any work

1482
01:05:41,150 --> 01:05:39,359
product or original research papers from

1483
01:05:43,609 --> 01:05:41,160
Los Alamos National Lab listing Bob

1484
01:05:46,430 --> 01:05:43,619
Lazar as an author nor any documentation

1485
01:05:49,069 --> 01:05:46,440
of lamp group meeting or Workshop

1486
01:05:51,109 --> 01:05:49,079
attendance by Bob Lazar I was able to

1487
01:05:54,109 --> 01:05:51,119
find this kind of documentation for

1488
01:05:56,210 --> 01:05:54,119
every other physicist I interviewed so

1489
01:05:58,490 --> 01:05:56,220
isn't that nice there's a see there's a

1490
01:05:59,990 --> 01:05:58,500
paper trail and this author was able to

1491
01:06:01,670 --> 01:06:00,000
prove that every other physicist he

1492
01:06:04,010 --> 01:06:01,680
interviewed from Los Alamos you could

1493
01:06:05,809 --> 01:06:04,020
find paperwork that showed they were in

1494
01:06:08,270 --> 01:06:05,819
meetings or Workshop attendance there

1495
01:06:11,329 --> 01:06:08,280
was no paperwork for Bob Lazar more

1496
01:06:14,569 --> 01:06:11,339
proof he was never a scientist not at

1497
01:06:17,510 --> 01:06:14,579
Los Alamos nowhere it was an Electronics

1498
01:06:19,370 --> 01:06:17,520
technician

1499
01:06:21,109 --> 01:06:19,380
next the author goes on a state I

1500
01:06:22,730 --> 01:06:21,119
reached out to investigative reporter

1501
01:06:24,349 --> 01:06:22,740
George Knapp to share these interviews

1502
01:06:26,450 --> 01:06:24,359
with Bob's former colleagues at Los

1503
01:06:29,390 --> 01:06:26,460
Alamos and asked for his comment Knapp

1504
01:06:31,789 --> 01:06:29,400
answered the phone then when I this is

1505
01:06:34,430 --> 01:06:31,799
very telling so George Knapp answers the

1506
01:06:36,289 --> 01:06:34,440
phone though when I told him that I had

1507
01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:36,299
spoken to multiple former colleagues of

1508
01:06:41,029 --> 01:06:38,400
Bob's at Los Alamos including his direct

1509
01:06:43,370 --> 01:06:41,039
Superior he said he had no interest in

1510
01:06:45,829 --> 01:06:43,380
it refused to speak about it and hung up

1511
01:06:47,870 --> 01:06:45,839
the phone isn't that nice the guy who's

1512
01:06:50,569 --> 01:06:47,880
been profiting from this story for 30

1513
01:06:52,609 --> 01:06:50,579
years doesn't even want to hear the

1514
01:06:55,010 --> 01:06:52,619
evidence that Bob Lazar lied about being

1515
01:06:56,930 --> 01:06:55,020
a scientist at Los Alamos does this

1516
01:06:59,510 --> 01:06:56,940
sound familiar

1517
01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:59,520
how would you not want to even hear the

1518
01:07:03,950 --> 01:07:01,680
evidence or maybe and this is my

1519
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:03,960
speculation and I'm entitled to it

1520
01:07:08,990 --> 01:07:06,480
maybe just maybe George Knapp already

1521
01:07:10,910 --> 01:07:09,000
knew maybe he already talked to those

1522
01:07:13,190 --> 01:07:10,920
people and they told him the same thing

1523
01:07:17,390 --> 01:07:13,200
they told this researcher and that is

1524
01:07:19,849 --> 01:07:17,400
Bob Lazar was a low-level uh Electronics

1525
01:07:22,370 --> 01:07:19,859
technician he was never a scientist he

1526
01:07:25,130 --> 01:07:22,380
was never a physicist

1527
01:07:27,230 --> 01:07:25,140
the author finally here States I want to

1528
01:07:29,870 --> 01:07:27,240
go on uh to give special credit and

1529
01:07:31,789 --> 01:07:29,880
thanks to Reddit user Jack Frost 71 who

1530
01:07:35,029 --> 01:07:31,799
you guys may remember as Victor our

1531
01:07:37,490 --> 01:07:35,039
one-time guest here also a very great

1532
01:07:39,710 --> 01:07:37,500
researcher looking into Bob Lazar they

1533
01:07:41,029 --> 01:07:39,720
were integral integral in providing key

1534
01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:41,039
guidance and knowledge that allowed me

1535
01:07:44,270 --> 01:07:42,720
to develop leads and find many of the

1536
01:07:46,549 --> 01:07:44,280
sources I interviewed for this article

1537
01:07:48,770 --> 01:07:46,559
and the articles that will follow this

1538
01:07:50,510 --> 01:07:48,780
reporting would have not have been would

1539
01:07:53,809 --> 01:07:50,520
have not been possible without their

1540
01:07:54,950 --> 01:07:53,819
help and of course this is from signals

1541
01:07:57,770 --> 01:07:54,960
intelligence who we're going to be

1542
01:07:59,870 --> 01:07:57,780
having as a guest here shortly uh sorry

1543
01:08:01,849 --> 01:07:59,880
for the length of this and uh you know

1544
01:08:04,250 --> 01:08:01,859
I'm sorry to just read this without much

1545
01:08:05,630 --> 01:08:04,260
commentary but I thought that we could

1546
01:08:08,329 --> 01:08:05,640
do

1547
01:08:11,210 --> 01:08:08,339
uh yes uh Victor colliero is here

1548
01:08:13,609 --> 01:08:11,220
welcome Victor colliero who reminds me

1549
01:08:16,370 --> 01:08:13,619
don't forget Bob's marriage certificate

1550
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:16,380
lists him as an electronics engineer and

1551
01:08:22,249 --> 01:08:19,440
that he was working as such at Fairchild

1552
01:08:24,590 --> 01:08:22,259
zincom right up to working Atlanta oh

1553
01:08:27,829 --> 01:08:24,600
and Bob's marriage certificate also says

1554
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:27,839
that his highest grade completed was 12.

1555
01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:30,000
so

1556
01:08:37,789 --> 01:08:36,000
babazar was never a scientist you have

1557
01:08:40,370 --> 01:08:37,799
to have degrees friends to be a

1558
01:08:41,870 --> 01:08:40,380
scientist he was never a scientist right

1559
01:08:46,550 --> 01:08:41,880
never

1560
01:08:48,289 --> 01:08:46,560
and you know so so now we're in a

1561
01:08:50,570 --> 01:08:48,299
situation where even the Bible is our

1562
01:08:52,610 --> 01:08:50,580
supporters have to admit that all of Bob

1563
01:08:55,849 --> 01:08:52,620
lazar's education is completely and

1564
01:08:58,189 --> 01:08:55,859
totally fake right now they're gonna

1565
01:09:00,349 --> 01:08:58,199
have to admit that problems are lied to

1566
01:09:02,749 --> 01:09:00,359
his teeth saying that he was a physicist

1567
01:09:04,669 --> 01:09:02,759
at Los Alamos and remember he didn't

1568
01:09:08,510 --> 01:09:04,679
just lie to George Knapp in the UFO

1569
01:09:10,430 --> 01:09:08,520
Community he lied to a newspaper author

1570
01:09:12,229 --> 01:09:10,440
right he told that guy he was a

1571
01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:12,239
physicist and remember I did talk about

1572
01:09:16,189 --> 01:09:14,880
I had sources at Los Alamos that didn't

1573
01:09:18,169 --> 01:09:16,199
want to go on the record but they told

1574
01:09:19,789 --> 01:09:18,179
me that people were shocked when they

1575
01:09:21,530 --> 01:09:19,799
read when they got the paper and were

1576
01:09:25,490 --> 01:09:21,540
like why did he say he was a physicist

1577
01:09:27,769 --> 01:09:25,500
here is that a goof he's a technician

1578
01:09:29,950 --> 01:09:27,779
now we have through signals intelligence

1579
01:09:32,570 --> 01:09:29,960
all of this incredible information

1580
01:09:36,050 --> 01:09:32,580
proving that

1581
01:09:39,050 --> 01:09:36,060
balazar lied he was never a physicist at

1582
01:09:41,870 --> 01:09:39,060
area 51. I think that this is very

1583
01:09:44,450 --> 01:09:41,880
definitive proof it's very well sourced

1584
01:09:47,390 --> 01:09:44,460
it's very well researched it's hard to

1585
01:09:49,249 --> 01:09:47,400
argue with this truth

1586
01:09:52,249 --> 01:09:49,259
so

1587
01:09:53,630 --> 01:09:52,259
fake education lying to people saying

1588
01:09:56,209 --> 01:09:53,640
he's a scientist when he's an

1589
01:09:58,370 --> 01:09:56,219
Electronics technician and we have the

1590
01:10:01,070 --> 01:09:58,380
area 51 security guard interview which

1591
01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:01,080
proves he never stepped foot on Area 51

1592
01:10:09,050 --> 01:10:03,840
never flew in or out of Area 51 and he

1593
01:10:11,030 --> 01:10:09,060
claimed that he did uh I think that

1594
01:10:17,330 --> 01:10:11,040
this

1595
01:10:20,689 --> 01:10:17,340
created around himself is a it's it's

1596
01:10:23,209 --> 01:10:20,699
it's a house of cards and that house of

1597
01:10:26,149 --> 01:10:23,219
cards is crumbling it's a shame it took

1598
01:10:28,370 --> 01:10:26,159
30 years for all this to take place and

1599
01:10:31,610 --> 01:10:28,380
by the way I just want to mention that

1600
01:10:33,950 --> 01:10:31,620
if this researcher and me were all able

1601
01:10:37,310 --> 01:10:33,960
to get sources at Los Alamos that said

1602
01:10:38,930 --> 01:10:37,320
no he was never a physicist here he was

1603
01:10:42,169 --> 01:10:38,940
a technician

1604
01:10:43,970 --> 01:10:42,179
then George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell

1605
01:10:47,209 --> 01:10:43,980
would have been able to get those same

1606
01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:47,219
people on the phone right or comments

1607
01:10:50,510 --> 01:10:48,239
from them

1608
01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:50,520
maybe they did

1609
01:10:56,169 --> 01:10:53,760
but you see like many people who sell

1610
01:10:59,810 --> 01:10:56,179
these stories I believe that people

1611
01:11:02,930 --> 01:10:59,820
sometimes they lie through omission

1612
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:02,940
let's not let's not ruin a good story

1613
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:06,480
with a few facts right let's not lie by

1614
01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:09,600
Omission or let's not you know lie to

1615
01:11:13,610 --> 01:11:11,520
anybody we'll just we'll just leave that

1616
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:13,620
part out you know that part that proves

1617
01:11:17,930 --> 01:11:16,080
that this guy's lying through his teeth

1618
01:11:20,570 --> 01:11:17,940
that we're pumping up as some kind of

1619
01:11:22,250 --> 01:11:20,580
guy that worked in Area 51

1620
01:11:25,850 --> 01:11:22,260
what you what

1621
01:11:30,649 --> 01:11:28,189
it's it's just okay to lie by Omission

1622
01:11:34,189 --> 01:11:30,659
apparently because many of these guys do

1623
01:11:36,770 --> 01:11:34,199
this so we'll take some comments and

1624
01:11:38,450 --> 01:11:36,780
questions from the live chat

1625
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:38,460
um and then we're gonna wrap things up

1626
01:11:44,270 --> 01:11:41,760
here we'll call it a quick one right

1627
01:11:46,370 --> 01:11:44,280
uh and we're gonna

1628
01:11:48,169 --> 01:11:46,380
read any super chats I didn't see any

1629
01:11:50,810 --> 01:11:48,179
come in no it doesn't look like Annie

1630
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:50,820
did come in so get those super chats in

1631
01:11:55,729 --> 01:11:53,520
now while you can friends uh because

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01:11:58,430 --> 01:11:55,739
we're gonna wrap this up shortly

1633
01:11:59,930 --> 01:11:58,440
otherwise I'll answer any comments or

1634
01:12:05,570 --> 01:11:59,940
questions we can have a short discussion

1635
01:12:10,850 --> 01:12:09,169
yeah before we move along here we've got

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01:12:12,770 --> 01:12:10,860
some other great stories to bring you

1637
01:12:15,050 --> 01:12:12,780
this week including we're going to have

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01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:15,060
an interview with LA Marzulli this

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01:12:22,310 --> 01:12:18,480
Friday night at 7 pm Eastern Time

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01:12:24,649 --> 01:12:22,320
Lois kaitano Lewis please email me again

1641
01:12:27,470 --> 01:12:24,659
because I want to have you on and we can

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01:12:30,110 --> 01:12:27,480
talk about this uh I I really enjoyed

1643
01:12:33,229 --> 01:12:30,120
Louis caitano is another person he's got

1644
01:12:35,209 --> 01:12:33,239
what is it it's called Uh

1645
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:35,219
I'm sorry I'm blanking on the name of

1646
01:12:39,950 --> 01:12:37,679
your blog

1647
01:12:41,450 --> 01:12:39,960
one second I'll get it

1648
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:41,460
there's something about the grift some

1649
01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:44,640
UFOs Lewis tell write in what the name

1650
01:12:49,790 --> 01:12:47,760
of your blog is I apologize right

1651
01:12:53,149 --> 01:12:49,800
lead guy with the kind and generous 999

1652
01:12:54,649 --> 01:12:53,159
Super Chat bacon and Pokemon fund thank

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01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:54,659
you for your kindness your generosity

1654
01:12:59,090 --> 01:12:57,600
and your support friends uh

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01:13:02,510 --> 01:12:59,100
uh yeah and we're definitely gonna have

1656
01:13:04,250 --> 01:13:02,520
Louis caitano on because he's got this

1657
01:13:05,570 --> 01:13:04,260
great blog I'm gonna see if I can find

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01:13:08,510 --> 01:13:05,580
it right now

1659
01:13:11,450 --> 01:13:08,520
and and he kind of put did something

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01:13:13,910 --> 01:13:11,460
that I can't do because I don't have the

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01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:13,920
attention span for it

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01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:15,840
uh he

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01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:21,120
put into uh into a blog post all of this

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01:13:26,090 --> 01:13:23,520
collected information

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01:13:28,010 --> 01:13:26,100
um about Bob Lazar the many lies of

1666
01:13:30,110 --> 01:13:28,020
bubbles are it's an excellent read if

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01:13:32,090 --> 01:13:30,120
you were interested in this

1668
01:13:35,570 --> 01:13:32,100
Lord Ludacris plaid with a Kind and

1669
01:13:37,250 --> 01:13:35,580
Generous 4.99 Super Chat yeah I'm sorry

1670
01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:37,260
you got lost in the win there Louis

1671
01:13:42,470 --> 01:13:40,320
caitano I did I have you on my list and

1672
01:13:44,090 --> 01:13:42,480
then this story tonight just reminded me

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01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:44,100
of it but this story's right up your

1674
01:13:48,350 --> 01:13:46,560
alley isn't this great and I'm sure that

1675
01:13:51,229 --> 01:13:48,360
uh signals intelligence wouldn't mind

1676
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:51,239
you citing his article and adding to

1677
01:13:55,070 --> 01:13:53,280
your own because I think that this

1678
01:13:58,330 --> 01:13:55,080
information tonight is very important

1679
01:14:01,250 --> 01:13:58,340
because now we can establish

1680
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:01,260
that Bob Lazar lied about three major

1681
01:14:07,790 --> 01:14:04,800
things flying into Area 51 his education

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01:14:10,370 --> 01:14:07,800
and being a physicist at Los Alamos

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01:14:12,350 --> 01:14:10,380
National Lab I mean at some point you

1684
01:14:14,810 --> 01:14:12,360
have to say how many times am I going to

1685
01:14:16,189 --> 01:14:14,820
let this guy straight lie to me before

1686
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:16,199
I'm just not going to believe anything

1687
01:14:22,010 --> 01:14:19,679
he says anymore and you know look I get

1688
01:14:24,050 --> 01:14:22,020
that the Believers that say well is that

1689
01:14:26,209 --> 01:14:24,060
maybe his education is fake but the rest

1690
01:14:28,610 --> 01:14:26,219
of his story is probably true

1691
01:14:30,110 --> 01:14:28,620
go start looking into the rest of his

1692
01:14:32,030 --> 01:14:30,120
story it's not true that he was a

1693
01:14:34,310 --> 01:14:32,040
scientist it's not true that he was a

1694
01:14:35,810 --> 01:14:34,320
physicist it's not true that he had a

1695
01:14:37,850 --> 01:14:35,820
particle accelerator in his bedroom

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01:14:42,110 --> 01:14:37,860
because that's impossible

1697
01:14:44,030 --> 01:14:42,120
and on and on and on we go May I'm not

1698
01:14:45,950 --> 01:14:44,040
going to allow Bob was already lying to

1699
01:14:48,590 --> 01:14:45,960
me anymore and you know what

1700
01:14:50,510 --> 01:14:48,600
the burden of proof is on the UFO

1701
01:14:52,490 --> 01:14:50,520
profiteers George Knapp and Jeremy

1702
01:14:56,990 --> 01:14:52,500
Corbell to prove

1703
01:14:59,209 --> 01:14:57,000
me this researcher Louis caitano alien

1704
01:15:00,950 --> 01:14:59,219
scientist and everybody else wrong but

1705
01:15:02,209 --> 01:15:00,960
the problem is they won't engage because

1706
01:15:03,770 --> 01:15:02,219
they know

1707
01:15:09,050 --> 01:15:03,780
we've got them

1708
01:15:09,950 --> 01:15:09,060
there's no defense for this for those

1709
01:15:11,930 --> 01:15:09,960
guys

1710
01:15:14,090 --> 01:15:11,940
so they think they can just let's just

1711
01:15:16,490 --> 01:15:14,100
put blinders on and act like hopefully

1712
01:15:18,830 --> 01:15:16,500
nobody hears about this [\h__\h] so we can

1713
01:15:20,330 --> 01:15:18,840
keep selling this story

1714
01:15:23,570 --> 01:15:20,340
it's not gonna work

1715
01:15:25,790 --> 01:15:23,580
the lies are piling up corbel the lies

1716
01:15:28,729 --> 01:15:25,800
are piling up George Knapp and you're

1717
01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:28,739
not addressing it speaks volumes

1718
01:15:33,410 --> 01:15:30,960
about the veracity of the claims that

1719
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:33,420
you guys have made in the continuing

1720
01:15:38,990 --> 01:15:36,560
effort to profit from this story

1721
01:15:41,270 --> 01:15:39,000
Lord ludicrous plaid with a kindly

1722
01:15:43,250 --> 01:15:41,280
generous 499 Super Chat says great show

1723
01:15:45,169 --> 01:15:43,260
the hand scanners was one of my

1724
01:15:46,970 --> 01:15:45,179
favorites from the story keep the

1725
01:15:50,630 --> 01:15:46,980
amazing shows coming yes and that would

1726
01:15:53,750 --> 01:15:50,640
be the bone hand scanner which was in uh

1727
01:15:55,430 --> 01:15:53,760
Close Encounters right and and actually

1728
01:15:57,410 --> 01:15:55,440
I found it in another movie Lord

1729
01:15:59,450 --> 01:15:57,420
ludicrous plaid so people were like how

1730
01:16:01,070 --> 01:15:59,460
did he know about that hand scanner well

1731
01:16:03,410 --> 01:16:01,080
it was in science fiction movies before

1732
01:16:05,810 --> 01:16:03,420
it came out with a story maybe he saw it

1733
01:16:07,490 --> 01:16:05,820
there I call me kooky it was also an

1734
01:16:09,410 --> 01:16:07,500
Electronics magazines and being an

1735
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:09,420
Electronics geek maybe he saw an

1736
01:16:14,090 --> 01:16:11,520
Electronics magazine I don't know but

1737
01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:14,100
knowing about a scanner used at some lab

1738
01:16:21,050 --> 01:16:16,800
does not prove all of his fake Flying

1739
01:16:25,209 --> 01:16:22,910
yeah go ahead sixth sense if you could

1740
01:16:27,790 --> 01:16:25,219
find it please do post the link to Mr

1741
01:16:29,990 --> 01:16:27,800
kaitano's I hope I'm saying that right

1742
01:16:34,610 --> 01:16:30,000
caitano's uh

1743
01:16:39,410 --> 01:16:34,620
blog uh because it's great I'm sure it

1744
01:16:43,370 --> 01:16:42,110
yeah and and Andrew bus says true

1745
01:16:45,169 --> 01:16:43,380
Seekers would love to see a real

1746
01:16:47,810 --> 01:16:45,179
physicist ask Bob a bunch of physics

1747
01:16:49,729 --> 01:16:47,820
question would end his story well Stan

1748
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:49,739
Freeman uh try to meet with him multiple

1749
01:16:54,290 --> 01:16:51,840
times and Bob Lazar was not interested

1750
01:16:57,890 --> 01:16:54,300
in meeting with a real nuclear physicist

1751
01:17:01,010 --> 01:16:57,900
and by the way uh Jeremy rise alien

1752
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:01,020
scientists have has invited babazar many

1753
01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:04,320
many times to his Apec conference where

1754
01:17:09,110 --> 01:17:06,480
he could answer questions from a whole

1755
01:17:12,649 --> 01:17:09,120
bunch of physicists and scientists and

1756
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:12,659
so far Jeremy Jeremy rise alien

1757
01:17:16,910 --> 01:17:14,880
scientist phone is not ringing back with

1758
01:17:19,729 --> 01:17:16,920
uh yeah let's do that from babazar

1759
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:19,739
there's a reason that Bob Lazar will not

1760
01:17:26,330 --> 01:17:22,800
allow himself to be questioned or talked

1761
01:17:29,169 --> 01:17:26,340
to even by a real scientist because I

1762
01:17:32,030 --> 01:17:29,179
believe that he would not be able to

1763
01:17:35,630 --> 01:17:32,040
withstand any real questions from a real

1764
01:17:40,010 --> 01:17:35,640
scientist who knows these things better

1765
01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:40,020
right who knows that you cannot

1766
01:17:46,250 --> 01:17:43,440
you can't fool you know a physicist

1767
01:17:48,169 --> 01:17:46,260
with a fake physicist I mean maybe for a

1768
01:17:50,630 --> 01:17:48,179
little while but give a real physicist

1769
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:50,640
an hour with Bob Lazar and they'll be

1770
01:17:54,770 --> 01:17:52,320
able to tell you that he's no physicist

1771
01:17:57,530 --> 01:17:54,780
besides all this other evidence that we

1772
01:18:02,630 --> 01:17:59,810
yes Victor caldero mentioning Bob had a

1773
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:02,640
friend named Jim tagliani who he claims

1774
01:18:07,910 --> 01:18:05,760
worked a Tonopah test range yeah and and

1775
01:18:10,010 --> 01:18:07,920
uh there would be radiation Health

1776
01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:10,020
monitors there right

1777
01:18:16,189 --> 01:18:13,440
yes and uh tonopod test range had an

1778
01:18:17,870 --> 01:18:16,199
actual site for and used a bone scanner

1779
01:18:18,830 --> 01:18:17,880
oh so maybe that's where he got it from

1780
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:18,840
see

1781
01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:20,880
it's not hard to find these guys sources

1782
01:18:24,590 --> 01:18:23,040
if you just dig and you know the

1783
01:18:27,770 --> 01:18:24,600
unfortunate part of this is that some

1784
01:18:29,810 --> 01:18:27,780
Believers are still gonna argue I mean

1785
01:18:31,970 --> 01:18:29,820
how much evidence do you need to uncover

1786
01:18:34,250 --> 01:18:31,980
that the people selling this story are

1787
01:18:36,890 --> 01:18:34,260
doing you dirty they're not including

1788
01:18:40,669 --> 01:18:36,900
this information and look I'm fine look

1789
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:40,679
I I'd I would love I'd want to include

1790
01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:43,440
all the information we all know Bob

1791
01:18:48,290 --> 01:18:45,840
Lazar story already

1792
01:18:50,570 --> 01:18:48,300
so you know pardon me if I don't dwell

1793
01:18:52,250 --> 01:18:50,580
on what he said about working on those

1794
01:18:54,590 --> 01:18:52,260
flying saucers but I think people have

1795
01:18:56,270 --> 01:18:54,600
heard that before we do our best here to

1796
01:18:59,390 --> 01:18:56,280
bring people the new information the

1797
01:19:01,250 --> 01:18:59,400
information that Bob Lazar and Jeremy

1798
01:19:03,189 --> 01:19:01,260
Corbell and George Knapp don't want you

1799
01:19:07,370 --> 01:19:03,199
to hear they don't want you to hear this

1800
01:19:09,410 --> 01:19:07,380
it it shoots their story to [\h__\h]

1801
01:19:10,729 --> 01:19:09,420
they don't want you to hear this and

1802
01:19:12,229 --> 01:19:10,739
they s and they don't want to talk about

1803
01:19:13,370 --> 01:19:12,239
it either isn't that isn't that

1804
01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:13,380
interesting

1805
01:19:16,910 --> 01:19:15,360
you're the one selling the story and

1806
01:19:18,830 --> 01:19:16,920
profiting from it you don't even want to

1807
01:19:23,450 --> 01:19:18,840
talk about all this evidence

1808
01:19:25,669 --> 01:19:23,460
that you left out right and listen I'm I

1809
01:19:27,350 --> 01:19:25,679
will freely admit that this next thing I

1810
01:19:29,930 --> 01:19:27,360
will say is complete and total

1811
01:19:33,050 --> 01:19:29,940
speculation but I'm entitled to it

1812
01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:33,060
if like I said if this other researcher

1813
01:19:38,209 --> 01:19:36,000
and me can both get sources at Los

1814
01:19:40,610 --> 01:19:38,219
Alamos to tell us that Bob Lazar was

1815
01:19:43,189 --> 01:19:40,620
never a physicist what are the odds

1816
01:19:44,450 --> 01:19:43,199
right that a professional you know I was

1817
01:19:46,430 --> 01:19:44,460
told I wasn't a professional

1818
01:19:47,870 --> 01:19:46,440
investigative journalist once by George

1819
01:19:50,590 --> 01:19:47,880
Knapp

1820
01:19:53,570 --> 01:19:50,600
what are the odds that a professional

1821
01:19:55,370 --> 01:19:53,580
full-time professional investigative

1822
01:19:57,169 --> 01:19:55,380
journalist would be able to find those

1823
01:19:59,270 --> 01:19:57,179
same sources to tell him the same thing

1824
01:20:01,430 --> 01:19:59,280
what are the odds that a full-time

1825
01:20:03,050 --> 01:20:01,440
professional documentary filmmaker

1826
01:20:05,450 --> 01:20:03,060
wouldn't be able to find those same

1827
01:20:08,570 --> 01:20:05,460
sources to tell him the same things

1828
01:20:12,709 --> 01:20:08,580
Bible Czar was never a physicist here

1829
01:20:15,290 --> 01:20:12,719
or did they find that and hear the the

1830
01:20:17,390 --> 01:20:15,300
stuff and just omit it leave it out

1831
01:20:18,890 --> 01:20:17,400
it'll ruin the story don't tell people

1832
01:20:20,990 --> 01:20:18,900
that [\h__\h]

1833
01:20:22,550 --> 01:20:21,000
Jeremy Corbell I love too he's the only

1834
01:20:24,350 --> 01:20:22,560
person that ever had access to Bob

1835
01:20:26,810 --> 01:20:24,360
lazar's family doesn't even bother to

1836
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:26,820
ask his mother did you attend his MIT

1837
01:20:31,669 --> 01:20:29,520
graduation did you attend his Caltech

1838
01:20:33,890 --> 01:20:31,679
graduation of course he didn't ask that

1839
01:20:36,649 --> 01:20:33,900
or he did and he didn't like the answer

1840
01:20:38,330 --> 01:20:36,659
so he cut that from that film right

1841
01:20:43,790 --> 01:20:38,340
but this is where we're at and this is

1842
01:20:47,689 --> 01:20:45,890
Mark taranas so what is the motive for

1843
01:20:49,790 --> 01:20:47,699
Corbell and that peddling these frauds

1844
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:49,800
do you have any idea how much nap has

1845
01:20:54,649 --> 01:20:52,080
made over the years on this story do you

1846
01:20:57,169 --> 01:20:54,659
have any idea what George Knapp gets to

1847
01:20:59,209 --> 01:20:57,179
talk at a UFO conference even just one

1848
01:21:01,250 --> 01:20:59,219
give one talk at a UFO conference to

1849
01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:01,260
talk about Bob Lazar do you have any

1850
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:05,280
idea how much Jeremy Corbell and Bob and

1851
01:21:10,310 --> 01:21:07,199
George Knapp made off that documentary

1852
01:21:15,290 --> 01:21:10,320
do you know that that George Knapp was

1853
01:21:18,290 --> 01:21:17,149
I believe that the motive is simply

1854
01:21:20,810 --> 01:21:18,300
money

1855
01:21:23,629 --> 01:21:20,820
but that's my opinion I mean they may

1856
01:21:25,550 --> 01:21:23,639
have other motives that I'm not aware of

1857
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:25,560
full Canali with a Kind and Generous

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work well thank you pirate party for

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01:22:59,090 --> 01:22:56,040
your kindness your generosity and your

1896
01:22:59,830 --> 01:22:59,100
support love that Avatar and uh what a

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01:23:05,030 --> 01:22:59,840
good

1898
01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:05,040
sounds that sounds like there should be

1899
01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:07,199
some rum there pirate party right

1900
01:23:11,510 --> 01:23:09,120
there's got to be rum at a pirate party

1901
01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:11,520
and I like you know I never knew I liked

1902
01:23:16,370 --> 01:23:13,440
rum punch until I went to the Caribbean

1903
01:23:21,110 --> 01:23:16,380
and there was one punt everywhere here

1904
01:23:22,970 --> 01:23:21,120
then I decided rum punch is delicious

1905
01:23:25,490 --> 01:23:22,980
I don't know why but everywhere we went

1906
01:23:28,370 --> 01:23:25,500
we went on some like chartered boats we

1907
01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:28,380
went uh you know snorkeling scuba diving

1908
01:23:33,649 --> 01:23:30,239
and swimming with sharks everywhere we

1909
01:23:35,870 --> 01:23:33,659
went there was one punch and including

1910
01:23:38,270 --> 01:23:35,880
at the resort where we were staying so

1911
01:23:40,790 --> 01:23:38,280
uh I drank a lot of rubbing punch and

1912
01:23:42,070 --> 01:23:40,800
that sounded that reminds me of a pirate

1913
01:23:45,709 --> 01:23:42,080
party right

1914
01:23:47,090 --> 01:23:45,719
ARG yeah the Caribbean is fun but it's a

1915
01:23:54,590 --> 01:23:47,100
lot more fun when there's rum punch

1916
01:23:58,970 --> 01:23:57,350
uh wild Ascension I try to not get

1917
01:24:00,890 --> 01:23:58,980
emotionally involved but I'm lying if I

1918
01:24:03,649 --> 01:24:00,900
say if it isn't true

1919
01:24:06,169 --> 01:24:03,659
wouldn't hurt a little yeah I grew up

1920
01:24:08,930 --> 01:24:06,179
with this story I love this story uh

1921
01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:08,940
like I said this is the honest to God

1922
01:24:14,510 --> 01:24:12,000
truth if I could pick one story out of

1923
01:24:18,350 --> 01:24:14,520
all the stories in UFO land to be true

1924
01:24:19,970 --> 01:24:18,360
it would be this one story this is my

1925
01:24:22,189 --> 01:24:19,980
favorite story the story I grew up with

1926
01:24:23,330 --> 01:24:22,199
I started following it right when it

1927
01:24:26,450 --> 01:24:23,340
broke

1928
01:24:30,290 --> 01:24:26,460
I remember hitting the national news

1929
01:24:33,350 --> 01:24:30,300
I remember going on bbs's and there was

1930
01:24:35,570 --> 01:24:33,360
a final net used groups for UFOs that

1931
01:24:38,030 --> 01:24:35,580
were add text files that you could

1932
01:24:40,910 --> 01:24:38,040
download with Bob Lazar interviews or

1933
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:40,920
Bob Lazar stories right

1934
01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:42,800
that was hell

1935
01:24:48,470 --> 01:24:46,320
you people with this great internet and

1936
01:24:51,050 --> 01:24:48,480
this high speed and this media Rich you

1937
01:24:51,890 --> 01:24:51,060
don't know the pain of ANSI and ASCII

1938
01:24:54,169 --> 01:24:51,900
text

1939
01:24:56,570 --> 01:24:54,179
bulletin board systems and trying to go

1940
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:56,580
through fight on that and download text

1941
01:25:01,010 --> 01:24:58,560
files even just downloading a text file

1942
01:25:05,270 --> 01:25:01,020
would take like 25 minutes it was

1943
01:25:08,930 --> 01:25:07,010
where you can have it just tuned in

1944
01:25:11,629 --> 01:25:08,940
there is proof Bob lied about his story

1945
01:25:13,610 --> 01:25:11,639
yeah rewind there's a whole lot of proof

1946
01:25:15,709 --> 01:25:13,620
tonight we presented a hundred percent

1947
01:25:17,810 --> 01:25:15,719
proof with impeccable sources that Bob

1948
01:25:21,890 --> 01:25:17,820
is our lie and he was never a physicist

1949
01:25:24,530 --> 01:25:21,900
at Los Alamos National Lab in fact he

1950
01:25:26,209 --> 01:25:24,540
was as we reported previously and I

1951
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:26,219
believed him to be an Electronics

1952
01:25:31,790 --> 01:25:29,520
technician but a new researcher found a

1953
01:25:34,189 --> 01:25:31,800
great deal more evidence to back up my

1954
01:25:37,010 --> 01:25:34,199
previous claims that Bob Lazar was a

1955
01:25:39,470 --> 01:25:37,020
low-level technician not a physicist

1956
01:25:41,750 --> 01:25:39,480
which means he lied he was never a

1957
01:25:44,629 --> 01:25:41,760
scientist at Los Alamos never

1958
01:25:47,390 --> 01:25:44,639
and uh tonight we presented proof from

1959
01:25:49,189 --> 01:25:47,400
the person that ran the lab he worked in

1960
01:25:52,129 --> 01:25:49,199
the guy who would have been his boss who

1961
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:52,139
said no he wasn't a physicist he was an

1962
01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:54,000
Electronics technician

1963
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:55,440
so

1964
01:26:00,169 --> 01:25:58,320
rewind that and uh we'll see where that

1965
01:26:02,810 --> 01:26:00,179
goes let me know what you think later we

1966
01:26:04,729 --> 01:26:02,820
can have it 215 and I still have you on

1967
01:26:06,649 --> 01:26:04,739
my list for an interview messaged me

1968
01:26:09,229 --> 01:26:06,659
we'll try to schedule that for next week

1969
01:26:11,870 --> 01:26:09,239
if you're down to do it uh and I would

1970
01:26:16,970 --> 01:26:14,990
thank you the sixth sense says I miss

1971
01:26:19,790 --> 01:26:16,980
those days but I don't miss the most

1972
01:26:22,189 --> 01:26:19,800
horribly horrifying speeds the sixth

1973
01:26:23,870 --> 01:26:22,199
sense you know what you have no idea bro

1974
01:26:29,570 --> 01:26:23,880
I

1975
01:26:32,030 --> 01:26:29,580
everybody else had a decent 16-bit you

1976
01:26:35,209 --> 01:26:32,040
know like a 386 or whatever I was still

1977
01:26:38,930 --> 01:26:35,219
on Tandy colored computers and they had

1978
01:26:43,010 --> 01:26:38,940
a problem with the serial Port that they

1979
01:26:46,129 --> 01:26:43,020
could only do 1200 baud so even after I

1980
01:26:49,550 --> 01:26:46,139
think I didn't get uh you passed 1200

1981
01:26:50,229 --> 01:26:49,560
blood so some people had 57 6 or you

1982
01:26:54,770 --> 01:26:50,239
know

1983
01:26:58,450 --> 01:26:54,780
thereabouts or 14-4 or maybe right I

1984
01:27:01,850 --> 01:26:58,460
don't remember but I was on a 300 bond

1985
01:27:03,830 --> 01:27:01,860
for forever I was on a 300 blood modem

1986
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:03,840
The Sixth Sense on a little 8-bit

1987
01:27:09,229 --> 01:27:05,520
computer right

1988
01:27:16,729 --> 01:27:09,239
and and then I upgraded to 1200 blog

1989
01:27:22,850 --> 01:27:20,450
wow is that is that real see

1990
01:27:24,530 --> 01:27:22,860
my fiance left me at the altar we are

1991
01:27:26,629 --> 01:27:24,540
common law man and wife but he did not

1992
01:27:29,330 --> 01:27:26,639
show up

1993
01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:29,340
on Alaska in Alaska

1994
01:27:33,950 --> 01:27:31,440
wow that's

1995
01:27:37,370 --> 01:27:33,960
a strange story is that recently or you

1996
01:27:38,930 --> 01:27:37,380
mean like back in your past fake

1997
01:27:42,410 --> 01:27:38,940
yeah and the Sixth Sense reminding

1998
01:27:44,450 --> 01:27:42,420
everybody the best place to follow me to

1999
01:27:47,330 --> 01:27:44,460
know about future shows and what we're

2000
01:27:51,229 --> 01:27:47,340
up to is to follow me at Stephen Campion

2001
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:51,239
on Twitter and also uh to

2002
01:27:55,070 --> 01:27:53,760
join our Discord server and I just want

2003
01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:55,080
to remind everybody if you're listening

2004
01:27:59,810 --> 01:27:56,880
in audio podcast land you're missing

2005
01:28:02,149 --> 01:27:59,820
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2006
01:28:03,709 --> 01:28:02,159
truth Seekers one word in the search bar

2007
01:28:06,169 --> 01:28:03,719
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2008
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2009
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2010
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2011
01:28:13,850 --> 01:28:12,480
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2012
01:28:16,310 --> 01:28:13,860
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2013
01:28:18,050 --> 01:28:16,320
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2014
01:28:20,270 --> 01:28:18,060
prefer you to come over here and be a

2015
01:28:22,010 --> 01:28:20,280
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2016
01:28:23,890 --> 01:28:22,020
audience we always have a good crowd of

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01:28:26,689 --> 01:28:23,900
people tonight we had great attendance

2018
01:28:28,669 --> 01:28:26,699
uh amazing attendance thank you all for

2019
01:28:30,709 --> 01:28:28,679
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2020
01:28:32,750 --> 01:28:30,719
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01:28:33,950 --> 01:28:32,760
over to YouTube just put truth seekers

2022
01:28:35,810 --> 01:28:33,960
in the search bar and look for the

2023
01:28:37,970 --> 01:28:35,820
weirdo with sunglasses that would be me

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01:28:39,530 --> 01:28:37,980
your host Steve cambian and hit the

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01:28:41,750 --> 01:28:39,540
Subscribe button and the notification

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01:28:44,030 --> 01:28:41,760
Bell come here be a part of our live

2027
01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:44,040
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2028
01:28:49,370 --> 01:28:46,560
experiencers

2029
01:28:52,430 --> 01:28:49,380
um all people are welcome here

2030
01:28:56,450 --> 01:28:52,440
we try to have an open and uh honest

2031
01:28:59,629 --> 01:28:56,460
conversation everybody is uh is welcome

2032
01:29:04,070 --> 01:29:01,970
Michael B I started out with an Amiga

2033
01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:04,080
yeah yeah I think I know you're from

2034
01:29:11,629 --> 01:29:05,760
Facebook from Amiga probably Michael

2035
01:29:14,689 --> 01:29:11,639
being right I uh I uh loved Amiga like I

2036
01:29:16,250 --> 01:29:14,699
went from uh garbage well I don't want

2037
01:29:19,070 --> 01:29:16,260
to say garbage

2038
01:29:21,229 --> 01:29:19,080
Tandy color computer Michael B was the

2039
01:29:23,330 --> 01:29:21,239
reason I stuck with it for so long is

2040
01:29:25,669 --> 01:29:23,340
because it had preemptive multitasking

2041
01:29:27,290 --> 01:29:25,679
in a very unix-like operating system and

2042
01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:27,300
I was young at the time I don't

2043
01:29:31,450 --> 01:29:29,520
understand Unix very much but what I did

2044
01:29:35,810 --> 01:29:31,460
understand is that I could download

2045
01:29:38,390 --> 01:29:35,820
files and I could use other programs at

2046
01:29:41,450 --> 01:29:38,400
the same time and it multitasked better

2047
01:29:44,090 --> 01:29:41,460
than my friends 486. you know remember

2048
01:29:46,010 --> 01:29:44,100
that 46 they had like desk View and

2049
01:29:48,770 --> 01:29:46,020
trying to run two programs at once and

2050
01:29:51,709 --> 01:29:48,780
it would Sutter and crap no

2051
01:29:53,810 --> 01:29:51,719
Sandy colored computers were smooth and

2052
01:29:56,030 --> 01:29:53,820
again they couldn't do much

2053
01:29:58,430 --> 01:29:56,040
there wasn't very much you know

2054
01:30:00,530 --> 01:29:58,440
incredible you know we had limited

2055
01:30:03,649 --> 01:30:00,540
colors and this and that but

2056
01:30:05,570 --> 01:30:03,659
it could multitask like hell and so then

2057
01:30:08,390 --> 01:30:05,580
I tried to get a go to PC and I was like

2058
01:30:10,310 --> 01:30:08,400
this is horrible but then I've had a

2059
01:30:12,470 --> 01:30:10,320
friend who had an Amiga 1000 and he was

2060
01:30:14,870 --> 01:30:12,480
upgrading to an Amiga 2000 and I bought

2061
01:30:19,970 --> 01:30:14,880
his Amiga 1000 and traded him a bunch of

2062
01:30:22,370 --> 01:30:19,980
parts and PC stuff and whatever and uh I

2063
01:30:26,689 --> 01:30:22,380
loved Amigas and I I hated the day that

2064
01:30:29,689 --> 01:30:26,699
I had a you know I used PCS too but for

2065
01:30:32,270 --> 01:30:29,699
you know BBS running a BBS my computer

2066
01:30:35,390 --> 01:30:32,280
and my front computer was Amiga I had

2067
01:30:39,530 --> 01:30:35,400
all the games Graphics sound you know

2068
01:30:39,540 --> 01:30:43,189
wild Ascension I have a question

2069
01:30:47,209 --> 01:30:45,050
is electronics technician considered

2070
01:30:49,550 --> 01:30:47,219
being being a scientist my son and I are

2071
01:30:52,129 --> 01:30:49,560
stuck on this no an Electronics

2072
01:30:54,530 --> 01:30:52,139
technician is a technician you could go

2073
01:30:56,149 --> 01:30:54,540
for six months and take a course in

2074
01:30:58,790 --> 01:30:56,159
electronics and you are an Electronics

2075
01:31:01,370 --> 01:30:58,800
technician a scientist needs I would

2076
01:31:04,310 --> 01:31:01,380
think at least a master's degree but you

2077
01:31:06,169 --> 01:31:04,320
know I guess you could technically call

2078
01:31:08,990 --> 01:31:06,179
somebody with a Bachelor of Science or a

2079
01:31:11,689 --> 01:31:09,000
four-year computer or a four-year degree

2080
01:31:14,030 --> 01:31:11,699
science degree a scientist I I don't

2081
01:31:15,470 --> 01:31:14,040
know what the specifics are but I can

2082
01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:15,480
definitely tell you that an Electronics

2083
01:31:27,229 --> 01:31:25,850
all right so uh boy uh what a great show

2084
01:31:28,669 --> 01:31:27,239
tonight I want to thank everybody for

2085
01:31:31,430 --> 01:31:28,679
joining us and I apologize once again

2086
01:31:34,010 --> 01:31:31,440
for my absence I hope that this school

2087
01:31:37,610 --> 01:31:34,020
situation and other stuff is going to be

2088
01:31:41,209 --> 01:31:37,620
uh you know worked out so that we can uh

2089
01:31:46,430 --> 01:31:44,149
and as some of you uh somebody messaged

2090
01:31:48,709 --> 01:31:46,440
me and said what's with the thumbnail uh

2091
01:31:50,689 --> 01:31:48,719
I don't know spooky car is not around so

2092
01:31:53,390 --> 01:31:50,699
I had to do it myself maybe we'll fix

2093
01:31:55,250 --> 01:31:53,400
that or I'll do a better one or somebody

2094
01:31:58,250 --> 01:31:55,260
else is free to do a better one that was

2095
01:32:00,470 --> 01:31:58,260
like I said we're last minute going to

2096
01:32:02,209 --> 01:32:00,480
broadcast tonight so you know sometimes

2097
01:32:09,910 --> 01:32:02,219
I have to improvise

2098
01:32:14,990 --> 01:32:13,070
Moody [\h__\h] babazar has a particle

2099
01:32:17,570 --> 01:32:15,000
accelerator made out of drain pipe parts

2100
01:32:21,050 --> 01:32:17,580
blue tack in his bedroom Ergo he must be

2101
01:32:23,629 --> 01:32:21,060
a physicist Jeremy horbel's logic brain

2102
01:32:25,970 --> 01:32:23,639
cell probably yeah you know that guy

2103
01:32:27,649 --> 01:32:25,980
will do anything you know you know but

2104
01:32:29,270 --> 01:32:27,659
here's the thing is like I don't want

2105
01:32:31,729 --> 01:32:29,280
anybody think I have any bitterness or

2106
01:32:34,550 --> 01:32:31,739
anger towards Korbel like hey good for

2107
01:32:36,110 --> 01:32:34,560
you man you made a documentary but one

2108
01:32:37,850 --> 01:32:36,120
thing that I will say is if you're going

2109
01:32:39,830 --> 01:32:37,860
to make a documentary about somebody and

2110
01:32:42,169 --> 01:32:39,840
you want to keep it honest you got to

2111
01:32:43,790 --> 01:32:42,179
remain objective you can't like hang out

2112
01:32:45,590 --> 01:32:43,800
with the guy and go fishing with him all

2113
01:32:47,330 --> 01:32:45,600
the time and you know light off

2114
01:32:49,129 --> 01:32:47,340
fireworks with them and be hanging out

2115
01:32:51,770 --> 01:32:49,139
of his house all the time and remain

2116
01:32:53,510 --> 01:32:51,780
objective I think corbel meant well but

2117
01:32:55,430 --> 01:32:53,520
he just lost his objectivity because he

2118
01:32:57,410 --> 01:32:55,440
became friends and I have the same

2119
01:33:00,050 --> 01:32:57,420
problem if I become friends with

2120
01:33:02,390 --> 01:33:00,060
somebody I can't be objective about

2121
01:33:05,930 --> 01:33:02,400
their

2122
01:33:07,850 --> 01:33:05,940
let's just say [\h__\h] right

2123
01:33:09,649 --> 01:33:07,860
now later it was in the backyard see

2124
01:33:12,530 --> 01:33:09,659
that's where visionist history first it

2125
01:33:15,229 --> 01:33:12,540
was in his bedroom but then when people

2126
01:33:17,149 --> 01:33:15,239
uh like real scientists pointed out that

2127
01:33:19,610 --> 01:33:17,159
you can't have a particle accelerator in

2128
01:33:22,550 --> 01:33:19,620
your bedroom then it became it was in it

2129
01:33:27,530 --> 01:33:22,560
was in the backyard but go ask a

2130
01:33:29,990 --> 01:33:27,540
physicist ntme9 how large of a bottles

2131
01:33:31,970 --> 01:33:30,000
are claimed that he had a particle

2132
01:33:36,229 --> 01:33:31,980
accelerator that he was making

2133
01:33:38,810 --> 01:33:36,239
geez what was it it was a hydrogen

2134
01:33:41,750 --> 01:33:38,820
sulfur oh wait

2135
01:33:44,270 --> 01:33:41,760
he was making some hydrogen component

2136
01:33:47,030 --> 01:33:44,280
some component for his hydrogen-powered

2137
01:33:48,890 --> 01:33:47,040
cars that he claims was illegal but it's

2138
01:33:51,649 --> 01:33:48,900
okay because he could make that material

2139
01:33:53,390 --> 01:33:51,659
with a particle accelerator friends go

2140
01:33:55,850 --> 01:33:53,400
ask a physicist how big a particle

2141
01:33:59,390 --> 01:33:55,860
accelerator you need to transmute

2142
01:34:01,010 --> 01:33:59,400
elements and make things it's huge you

2143
01:34:02,689 --> 01:34:01,020
know you're not doing that in your

2144
01:34:07,129 --> 01:34:02,699
backyard or your bedroom

2145
01:34:11,450 --> 01:34:09,410
yes as someone has said his story has

2146
01:34:13,790 --> 01:34:11,460
changed so many times it's ridiculous I

2147
01:34:18,370 --> 01:34:13,800
agree I think it's uh it's definitely

2148
01:34:24,530 --> 01:34:22,189
private party is does he have a med bed

2149
01:34:26,390 --> 01:34:24,540
Mark Toronto yeah I mean some guys get

2150
01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:26,400
more schooling but you know what I mean

2151
01:34:29,990 --> 01:34:28,560
you can go at least in my area there

2152
01:34:32,030 --> 01:34:30,000
used to be something called Chi

2153
01:34:33,590 --> 01:34:32,040
Institute or something it's a trade

2154
01:34:35,030 --> 01:34:33,600
school and you can go for six months and

2155
01:34:37,570 --> 01:34:35,040
they give you a certificate that says

2156
01:34:40,609 --> 01:34:37,580
you're an electronics repair technician

2157
01:34:42,770 --> 01:34:40,619
but I believe that the good techs have

2158
01:34:45,109 --> 01:34:42,780
much more than a you know a few months

2159
01:34:47,030 --> 01:34:45,119
in a tech school those are the guys that

2160
01:34:48,890 --> 01:34:47,040
I would prefer to hire Mark Toronto like

2161
01:34:51,229 --> 01:34:48,900
you right

2162
01:34:55,550 --> 01:34:51,239
Cowboy [\h__\h] is here again it says look

2163
01:34:58,310 --> 01:34:55,560
up David Han sometime he has a reactor

2164
01:35:00,050 --> 01:34:58,320
if you say so oh no actually I think

2165
01:35:01,790 --> 01:35:00,060
you're right about that guy

2166
01:35:03,109 --> 01:35:01,800
yeah but a reactor and a particle

2167
01:35:06,830 --> 01:35:03,119
accelerator are two different things

2168
01:35:09,229 --> 01:35:06,840
Cowboy a reactor can be on a tabletop

2169
01:35:15,350 --> 01:35:09,239
uh a particle accelerator you need an

2170
01:35:19,250 --> 01:35:17,570
Victor colliero he once said gravity

2171
01:35:22,790 --> 01:35:19,260
waves travel instantly they don't travel

2172
01:35:27,350 --> 01:35:25,070
yes private party says Bob is out of the

2173
01:35:29,149 --> 01:35:27,360
game if he's not bed betting yeah hey

2174
01:35:31,790 --> 01:35:29,159
give him time he'll run out of money and

2175
01:35:33,649 --> 01:35:31,800
and maybe he'll start talking about you

2176
01:35:35,270 --> 01:35:33,659
know the aliens you know he learned

2177
01:35:38,510 --> 01:35:35,280
Medved technology while he worked at

2178
01:35:40,250 --> 01:35:38,520
Area 51 who knows right

2179
01:35:41,090 --> 01:35:40,260
Cowboy [\h__\h] says but his was actually

2180
01:35:43,189 --> 01:35:41,100
real

2181
01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:43,199
yeah I believe that you're right I read

2182
01:35:59,870 --> 01:35:55,490
people should research the story Bob

2183
01:36:03,169 --> 01:35:59,880
told Tim Ventura it's an eye-opener

2184
01:36:05,209 --> 01:36:03,179
yeah I agree with you Cowboy [\h__\h] says

2185
01:36:07,189 --> 01:36:05,219
Corbell wants it to be true that's the

2186
01:36:09,590 --> 01:36:07,199
biggest issue that's exactly the biggest

2187
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:09,600
issue and and like I said you just if

2188
01:36:12,590 --> 01:36:11,040
you want the story to be true so

2189
01:36:15,050 --> 01:36:12,600
desperately you lose your objectivity

2190
01:36:16,729 --> 01:36:15,060
you know to me I could look at all the

2191
01:36:19,189 --> 01:36:16,739
evidence and then make an informed

2192
01:36:22,129 --> 01:36:19,199
decision based on available evidence he

2193
01:36:24,830 --> 01:36:22,139
has to Omit evidence to be able to

2194
01:36:28,430 --> 01:36:24,840
convince people that Bob may be telling

2195
01:36:30,830 --> 01:36:28,440
the truth if you have to Omit evidence

2196
01:36:32,689 --> 01:36:30,840
to make the story work

2197
01:36:35,030 --> 01:36:32,699
that's a pretty good indicator that the

2198
01:36:38,689 --> 01:36:35,040
story might not be credible this is just

2199
01:36:41,090 --> 01:36:38,699
my opinion right that's how I feel about

2200
01:36:45,290 --> 01:36:43,189
yeah Victor caldero said would be

2201
01:36:48,229 --> 01:36:45,300
awesome if the med bed from Elysium was

2202
01:36:50,090 --> 01:36:48,239
real yeah so many of these guys must

2203
01:36:51,770 --> 01:36:50,100
have seen that Alicia movie and thought

2204
01:36:54,290 --> 01:36:51,780
we can make some money off of this story

2205
01:36:58,189 --> 01:36:54,300
we'll just say we got one did you see

2206
01:36:59,990 --> 01:36:58,199
Victor I did a story on uh Sarah R Adams

2207
01:37:02,209 --> 01:37:00,000
you know she took a lot of [\h__\h] because

2208
01:37:03,709 --> 01:37:02,219
we covered her selling fake med bed

2209
01:37:05,209 --> 01:37:03,719
sessions for a med bed that doesn't

2210
01:37:07,669 --> 01:37:05,219
exist you know where she's going to take

2211
01:37:09,830 --> 01:37:07,679
you up through a Stargate to the

2212
01:37:11,450 --> 01:37:09,840
spaceship and lay you in a med bed but

2213
01:37:13,010 --> 01:37:11,460
then at the end of the ad copy she has

2214
01:37:16,550 --> 01:37:13,020
to admit that it's just a Skype session

2215
01:37:20,149 --> 01:37:18,890
for me and others for that so then she

2216
01:37:23,209 --> 01:37:20,159
decided she was going to hire somebody

2217
01:37:25,669 --> 01:37:23,219
to build her a real med bed and this guy

2218
01:37:28,450 --> 01:37:25,679
octurus raw who makes like

2219
01:37:31,490 --> 01:37:28,460
I don't know new age art kind of stuff

2220
01:37:33,169 --> 01:37:31,500
and necklaces that are way too expensive

2221
01:37:36,109 --> 01:37:33,179
that don't do anything that he claims to

2222
01:37:39,229 --> 01:37:36,119
do okay anyway that dude built her a med

2223
01:37:42,590 --> 01:37:39,239
bed out of include magnets inside a

2224
01:37:45,050 --> 01:37:42,600
tanning bed and painted it

2225
01:37:46,970 --> 01:37:45,060
great great story

2226
01:37:49,550 --> 01:37:46,980
you could see that story here Victor

2227
01:37:52,250 --> 01:37:49,560
it's just a great story so I now they're

2228
01:37:54,530 --> 01:37:52,260
selling real med bed sessions and you

2229
01:37:56,270 --> 01:37:54,540
know we talked about how neurologically

2230
01:37:57,590 --> 01:37:56,280
it could be dangerous for you to just

2231
01:37:59,990 --> 01:37:57,600
get in some

2232
01:38:01,609 --> 01:38:00,000
tanning bed with all these magnets glued

2233
01:38:02,390 --> 01:38:01,619
in it who knows what that does to your

2234
01:38:04,189 --> 01:38:02,400
body

2235
01:38:05,930 --> 01:38:04,199
but they're apparently they're moving

2236
01:38:07,609 --> 01:38:05,940
forward they're opening an office in

2237
01:38:10,129 --> 01:38:07,619
Sedona Arizona where you're going to be

2238
01:38:12,890 --> 01:38:10,139
able to buy a med bed session Victor

2239
01:38:16,729 --> 01:38:12,900
colliero and again the med bed consists

2240
01:38:20,629 --> 01:38:16,739
of a tanning booth I'm sorry

2241
01:38:23,090 --> 01:38:20,639
a tanning bed that some guy glue a bunch

2242
01:38:26,629 --> 01:38:23,100
of magnets into

2243
01:38:26,639 --> 01:38:29,330
yeah

2244
01:38:34,250 --> 01:38:32,810
yes so uh we are going to bounce on out

2245
01:38:36,050 --> 01:38:34,260
of here friends I want to thank old

2246
01:38:38,990 --> 01:38:36,060
friends and welcome new friends I saw

2247
01:38:40,790 --> 01:38:39,000
quite a few new faces in the uh live

2248
01:38:43,070 --> 01:38:40,800
chat I want to let you know that you are

2249
01:38:46,310 --> 01:38:43,080
most welcome here please if you haven't

2250
01:38:47,870 --> 01:38:46,320
already do me a favor and go and and hit

2251
01:38:50,209 --> 01:38:47,880
that subscribe button and the

2252
01:38:52,189 --> 01:38:50,219
notification Bell then you'll be able to

2253
01:38:53,629 --> 01:38:52,199
come here and be a part of the live

2254
01:38:55,609 --> 01:38:53,639
chats

2255
01:38:58,010 --> 01:38:55,619
and we would really appreciate your

2256
01:39:00,590 --> 01:38:58,020
participation I can't do this without

2257
01:39:02,870 --> 01:39:00,600
you this is a journey that we all get to

2258
01:39:04,370 --> 01:39:02,880
take together can't tell you how happy I

2259
01:39:06,109 --> 01:39:04,380
am that you are here to take this

2260
01:39:10,370 --> 01:39:06,119
journey with me

2261
01:39:12,530 --> 01:39:10,380
so what can I say friends uh

2262
01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:12,540
I'm gonna go probably have some alcohol

2263
01:39:17,090 --> 01:39:14,000
therapy

2264
01:39:22,250 --> 01:39:17,100
it's been a long week

2265
01:39:25,129 --> 01:39:22,260
uh long long week and uh

2266
01:39:27,169 --> 01:39:25,139
you know I think sometimes life is a

2267
01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:27,179
little too challenging right it's good

2268
01:39:30,649 --> 01:39:28,800
to be challenged in life I've heard that

2269
01:39:33,290 --> 01:39:30,659
many times but sometimes

2270
01:39:35,450 --> 01:39:33,300
it's it's too much and I want to tell

2271
01:39:38,149 --> 01:39:35,460
the universe okay I'm good I've got

2272
01:39:40,669 --> 01:39:38,159
enough challenges and can we just move

2273
01:39:43,490 --> 01:39:40,679
on from this right

2274
01:39:46,310 --> 01:39:43,500
and lately all the Dramarama seems like

2275
01:39:50,149 --> 01:39:46,320
one fire goes out and another one starts

2276
01:39:53,870 --> 01:39:50,159
and even if you have good intentions

2277
01:39:55,790 --> 01:39:53,880
things just uh erupt but you know we're

2278
01:39:59,030 --> 01:39:55,800
still here

2279
01:40:02,750 --> 01:39:59,040
I showed up I did some uh what I think

2280
01:40:05,810 --> 01:40:02,760
is valuable work today I uh I'm very

2281
01:40:08,209 --> 01:40:05,820
pleased you know to uh

2282
01:40:10,189 --> 01:40:08,219
get to meet and talk to this Signal's

2283
01:40:13,310 --> 01:40:10,199
intelligence today who is going to be a

2284
01:40:16,070 --> 01:40:13,320
guest here and this guy's got so many

2285
01:40:17,930 --> 01:40:16,080
interviews and information on Bob Lazar

2286
01:40:19,669 --> 01:40:17,940
I can't wait I hope he's gonna let me

2287
01:40:21,350 --> 01:40:19,679
bring it all to you guys

2288
01:40:23,030 --> 01:40:21,360
uh because this is a good place for it

2289
01:40:24,830 --> 01:40:23,040
we've done a lot of work on babazar

2290
01:40:26,330 --> 01:40:24,840
we've covered him many many times and I

2291
01:40:27,890 --> 01:40:26,340
hope we'll continue to cover him

2292
01:40:31,310 --> 01:40:27,900
especially when there's new developments

2293
01:40:33,770 --> 01:40:31,320
like this and new evidence uh that we

2294
01:40:35,689 --> 01:40:33,780
can all listen to and make up our minds

2295
01:40:36,890 --> 01:40:35,699
about Bob Lazar with

2296
01:40:38,510 --> 01:40:36,900
so

2297
01:40:41,149 --> 01:40:38,520
that's where we're at that's where we

2298
01:40:42,830 --> 01:40:41,159
find ourselves and uh I'm so glad that I

2299
01:40:45,590 --> 01:40:42,840
found myself here with all of you

2300
01:40:49,129 --> 01:40:45,600
tonight please do subscribe we have to

2301
01:40:50,930 --> 01:40:49,139
get over this hump it seems like the new

2302
01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:50,940
subscribers have slowed down a whole

2303
01:40:56,810 --> 01:40:54,239
bunch as we race towards the uh 5 000

2304
01:40:59,450 --> 01:40:56,820
subscribers which is halfway to the

2305
01:41:01,310 --> 01:40:59,460
initial goal when I started this channel

2306
01:41:03,770 --> 01:41:01,320
and uh who wouldn't know it would take

2307
01:41:06,350 --> 01:41:03,780
this long you know

2308
01:41:08,109 --> 01:41:06,360
but we're still in here we're still in

2309
01:41:11,270 --> 01:41:08,119
here swinging

2310
01:41:13,729 --> 01:41:11,280
every day uh and and I'm sure we're

2311
01:41:16,070 --> 01:41:13,739
gonna hit our goals eventually and just

2312
01:41:17,810 --> 01:41:16,080
sometimes those goals that you have are

2313
01:41:20,870 --> 01:41:17,820
a little too lofty maybe you're not

2314
01:41:22,609 --> 01:41:20,880
maybe I wasn't quite aware of the effort

2315
01:41:24,310 --> 01:41:22,619
that it would take and hey I'm not

2316
01:41:27,770 --> 01:41:24,320
complaining I'm just saying that uh

2317
01:41:30,530 --> 01:41:27,780
sometimes we we underestimate the

2318
01:41:32,090 --> 01:41:30,540
challenges ahead of us but I've never

2319
01:41:34,669 --> 01:41:32,100
been one to shrink them from a challenge

2320
01:41:38,090 --> 01:41:34,679
so I'm in here for the Long Haul let's

2321
01:41:40,669 --> 01:41:38,100
just keep this thing going so until next

2322
01:41:45,740 --> 01:41:40,679
time friends my name is Stephen cambian

2323
01:43:06,080 --> 01:42:55,689
[Music]

2324
01:43:33,910 --> 01:43:06,090
[Applause]

2325
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:57,030
thank you

2326
01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:23,709
[Music]

2327
01:44:23,719 --> 01:45:00,230
thank you

2328
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:17,229
[Music]

2329
01:45:51,190 --> 01:45:19,170
thank you

2330
01:46:30,450 --> 01:45:58,780
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